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1761 messages, Last post on Jul 01, 2008 at 7:43 AM
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Replying to: 1stpik (Jun 18, 2008 6:02 am) |
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Replying to: 74apollo (Jun 18, 2008 8:24 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Jun 17, 2008 5:29 am) I was a Toyota service manager for 16 years and the Prius was just the opposite. You always did worse than the computer said. Actually on the Prius with it's Bladder style gas tank it was almost impossible to take a true MPG reading and that came down from Toyota. |
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Replying to: johnparker (Jun 18, 2008 8:43 am) It has nothing to do with "Macho". The SUVs and trucks have a higher profit margin. That is why the manufacturers like to sell them. Cheaper and smaller cars have a lower profit margin. |
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Replying to: johnparker (Jun 17, 2008 7:20 am) I also enjoy cars, but I am pathologically frugal, and in addition I have a terrible time deciding what car to buy out of the wide range of choices available. I usually keep a car until I cannot stand to do the next set of repairs, and then sell it for very little to a buyer whom I inform about what's wrong with it. A year ago, after over 16 years of ownership, I sold my 1991 Dodge Spirit 4-dr sedan 4-cyl 5-spd for nothing. I wanted to "give it a good home." I had been looking at new cars for 6 years, but could never decide on anything. I looked at the Prius, VW Jetta TDI wagon (wish I had got that in 2002 or so), Kia Sedona, Dodge/Mercedes Sprinter van, Subaru Outback, . . . but could never commit to anything. I took my wife's car as a hand-me-down--a 2004 Volvo V70 wagon, a base model 2.4L 5-cyl with auto tranny (28,000 mi on the odo when I got it)--because she strongly wanted a vehicle with dynamic stability control. I really wanted a manual tranny, but it made economic sense for me to take her car, which was well cared for mechanically, but the interior was worn and grimy due to our using it for camping, hauling gardening supplies, and trips with three dogs. Right now I plan to keep this vehicle for the forseeable future. I put a trailer hitch on it and have used it to tow a 1500 lb gross wt trailer and have slept in the back in state park campgrounds on a couple of long distance trips. I get ~20 mpg around town on short trips, and well over 30mpg on the highway. Even driving 70 mph (or sometimes over where the speed limits are higher in west Texas, New Mexico or Arizona) I get over 30 mpg. Does the 2nd row seatback in a Civic Hybrid fold down? If not, this would limit its utility for bulky cargo. This also means you can't sleep in the back, which you could do in an Accord or even a regular Civic. But if you don't need to carry bulky cargo and sleep in the back, then not having that capability is not a concern. For me a three-year-old Accord 4-cyl would be a like new car which I would not be thinking of parting with, but I celebrate your enthusiasm for getting something new. |
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I bought my HCH last year and was able to get back $2,100 on my taxes as a tax credit (not a reduction in your taxable income, but a full tax credit). This is being lowered this year, but it looks like if you buy one before the end of June you will still get half of that, If you buy one before the end of the year you will get 25%. Glad I bought mine when I did, as it offset the premium for the hybrid. Personally, I think they should keep this in force, but I guess now with hybrids in such demand a lot of folks will buy them anyway. For more info: http://taxes.about.com/od/deductionscredits/a/hybridtaxcredit_4.htm |
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Report: I've owned my 2004 HCH1 CVT since new. It currently has over 122,000 miles. It's had regular serviced maintenance, but no problems at all, except an occasional interior rattle. OEM tires replaced at 88,000 miles, Dealer says OEM brakes have "plenty left". Starts, runs, drives as day one. I hypermiled it to the extreme from 2004-2006 for a personal MPG record of 74.9, that's 1004 miles on a single tank. My commute have changed to less favorable since 2006 and average a little over 60MPG (+800 miles/tank). Lifetime MPG including the extreme hypermiling years is about 65. Hands down, this has been both the most fun car I've ever owned (out of about 12) and saved many thousands $$ over the years. Additionally, The car has taught me how to drive truly efficiently which we have transfered over to our other vehicles for further savings. It has been the best automotive choice I could have ever made. -Steve
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Replying to: misterme (Jun 27, 2008 2:16 pm) |
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Replying to: misterme (Jun 27, 2008 2:16 pm) |
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Thank you roger1655. It took two years of experimenting with what works to save fuel- and what doesn't, and applying every one of those to the unpractical extreme. I was able to do so because I worked off-hours, have a 50 mile commute and drove home at 2-3AM on nearly or completely abandoned roads. But still, my personal record is what it is. My commute have changed since then to regular hours, and no longer able to reach those rediculous figures, but still able to maintain about 60MPG using all of these tips I posted in a safe, courtious manner (Tips near the page bottom): mickeyrom, "Honda Civic Hybrid MPG-Real World Numbers" #378, 12 Jun 2008 11:23 am There are some well known tips there, as well as some not so common. A lot for someone to remember, but becomes 2nd hand if made routine. For more hypermiling info, some other good sites are: www.gassavers.org www.cleanmpg.com -Steve |
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