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Ford F-250 Super Duty, Diesel, Truck
Sep 17, 2002 (5:54 am)
The mileage figures for the gasser and diesel are based on the life expectancy of the vehicle. Sure gassers can, and do, go past 150k while diesels can go past 300k. But, you're right. If a person only puts 150k on a diesel, then the cost of ownership per mile goes up. However, the $0 end value assumption in this scenario is then flawed.
#77 of 105 Looking to Upgrade
Sep 17, 2002 (5:26 pm)
I'm looking to upgrade from a 1994 F150 xl 2wd to an F250 psd 4x4 xcab. I recently tried out both the auto and the manual. I really liked the manual except that they moved the reverse to the no. 1 position. Found that a little confusing. I am looking for a truck that will last for a while. I have a little experience with diesels, but none from personal ownership. I will be reading all of your posts to help me with my decision.
Sep 18, 2002 (8:44 am)
We bought an '02 F250 crewcab, psd, auto., and love it. We've gotten away from standard trannys...as hubby says, he shifts gears all week, he isn't doing it on the weekend anymore.
We got our '02 about 2 months ago, put 4500 miles on it and we both love it.
Best of luck with your decision.
#79 of 105 My Two-Cents Worth!!!
Sep 18, 2002 (12:53 pm)
I have an F-250 Crew Cab 4x4 with V-10. I purchased Sept. 2002 after 9-11. I presently
have 12,000+ miles. Have had no problems.
I have Lariet package with all available options.
I chose the V-10 over the diesel because of the
$$$ savings along with avoiding all the mess
and maintenance. Actually no more heavyduty
towing that I do I probably could have easily
gotten by with the V-8 gasser.
Happy in Alabama with V-10.
MPG = 13-14 on the road and 11-12 in the city.
#80 of 105 newguy02
Sep 19, 2002 (7:46 am)
Nearly two years ago I was in your position. Had a '92 F-150 SC, SB, 4X4 with 150k miles. It was time for something new. Began looking at and test driving new gas 150's and 250's. Didn't take much to understand the 250 was a better value, it's a lot more rig. Then I drove the Powerstroke. Hook was immediatley set.
The tough choice will be V-10 or Powerstroke. I don't "need" the stroke, however it is my preference.
Sep 19, 2002 (8:00 am)
Hi all. Hope you don't mind a VW TDI interloper.
One big advantage of a diesel engine is that you can burn biodiesel in it. Biodiesel is diesel fuel made from just about any veggie oil (usually soybeans in the US). It will virtually eliminate smoke, make the engine run smoother (more lubricity), should increase engine life, keeps your fuel dollars in America instead of sending them abroad and out of the US economy (support farmers, not oil barons), and burns much cleaner (no sulfur, is virtually carbon-neutral... so it barely contributes to global warming, etc).
There's a bunch of info about biodiesel at www.biodieselnow.com.
Sep 19, 2002 (12:19 pm)
By any chance are you "brewing" your own biodiesel? Have heard that some folks do. They recycle french fry oil etc. Sounds like biodiesel is coming on strong. Too bad for the oil companies.... Ah shucks.
Sep 20, 2002 (5:23 am)
Not I. You need lye and methanol to break the glycerine off the veggie oil. I have two toddlers, and no garage, so I just don't want that stuff lying around the house.
I am seriously considering getting a waste vegetable oil setup like www.greasel.com or www.greasecar.com, so I can run the car on straight veggie oil from restaurant friers.
#84 of 105 There was an article....
Sep 20, 2002 (5:47 am)
in our local newspaper just two days ago about biodiesel. In the article it stated that the EPA has mandated all sulfur to be removed from diesel by 2006. We all know what this does for diesels lubricity. They said as little as a 2% mix of soybean oil increased lubricity by 66%. Also according to the article, only a $.02 price increase at the pump. Is this article FOS or is it correct?
#85 of 105 Sounds fairly accurate
Sep 21, 2002 (4:29 am)
Biodiesel has incredible lubricity benefits. The most often sold blend is b20, or 20% bio, 80% diesel. Bio would be a GREAT solution for lubricity loss caused by the desulfurization process.
The 2006 ULSD (Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel) won't have ZERO sulfur... it'll have MUCH less. Right now in the US, our maximum sulfur content is 500 PPM. In Europe, and in 2006, that max PPM will be 15 (yes, fifteen). This will enable us to get all the incredible diesel cars they have in Europe that go 0-60 in 6 or 7 seconds yet get 40 MPG and 700 miles on a tank of fuel.
I know in my 96 Passat TDI, bio makes a huge difference in how smooth the engine runs. Just this week I ran out of my supply (I get 50-gallon drums delivered to my house) and had to fill up with petroleum. The car ran MUCH rougher. Then I borrowed 5 gallons from a biodiesel buddy (so I'm running about b30 right now) and the car is running much better.
The other annoying thing when I was back to petroleum for those few days is that the smoke was back! I had almost forgotten about smoke when accellerating quickly. Thankfully, it's gone again.