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#1 of 308 New Isuzu by porknbeans

Mar 29, 2002 (5:28 am)

Here is the new Trooper replacement:

http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=4768&sid=176&n=156

And you can find more info at:

http://www.isuzu.com/

It looks like a Chevy/Olds/GMC in the extended wheelbase version. It should since it is built off of the same platform and at the same factory.

Too bad.

#2 of 308 by steve_ HOST

Mar 29, 2002 (9:20 am)

And thanks for spelling it correctly

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#3 of 308 BIG mistake by ksharrington

Mar 29, 2002 (10:11 am)

This is the final nail in the coffin for Isuzu. Their bread and butter was affordable SUVs, NOT large luxury SUVs. For how much the Ascender will cost, I can get an MDX or even a low-end M-class.
 
Isuzu needs to decontent this thing and bring it in at the low $20s. Olds, Chevrolet and GMC already have the high end taken care of.
 
The first Rodeo is a prime example. IT was bare-bones, even at that time and it sold like wild fire. The second generation comes out and the sales tank.
 
Look at the X-Terra. It is bare-bones by comparison to other SUVs and it is selling like crazy because they are cheap and durable.

#4 of 308 Outside appearances by porknbeans

Mar 29, 2002 (11:21 am)

Cost is certainly one issue that is going to be the ***-ender (couldn't resist it Steve )of this truck but also the fact that it will be indistinguishable. In a parking lot or in your driveway people will say that you own a General Motors product not an Isuzu. Depending upon if that's all right with you it may not be a problem. However, if you are a car company wanting to create an identity it's not the place you want to start.
 
Nissan didn't just pull itself out of the ashes by giving the public the same old same old. An oversimplification maybe, but their new products are certainly identifiable.

#5 of 308 Isuzu: R.I.P. by rsholland

Mar 29, 2002 (2:11 pm)

Are you aware that the extended wheelbase TrailBlazer, Envoy, and now the Ascender too, all have a wheelbase 1" less than a full-size Suburban? That is nuts!
 
GM has to add a full 16" in both wheelbase and length, in order to add the third row seating. The Explorer, Mountaineer and Aviator are all able to get fold-down third row seating in the same wheelbase as the standard-length TrailBlazer. You can thank the IRS that the Explorer, etc., for this much better, and much more efficient packaging.
 
At 129" for the wheelbase, the breakover angle on the Ascender, et al, must be miserable. The turning circle must be Suburban-like too.
 
I mean really, if I were considering a vehicle with a 129" wheelbase, I'd opt for the 130" wheelbase Suburban, and get the real thing. Even the '03 full-size Expedition only has a wheelbase of 119," and it has fold-down rear seats too. The full-size 3-seat Tahoe has a wheelbase of 115." GM really blew it on this one.
 
I also agree with the Car Connection link, in that this new Ascender will probably be the final nail in Isuzu's coffin.
 
Bob

#6 of 308 Good by diploid

Mar 29, 2002 (10:28 pm)

Put Isuzu out of its misery. With the Trooper, Rodeo and Amigo (err Rodeo Sport) going the way of the dinosaur, and the Axiom and VehiCross barely scaring the competition, it's amazing that Isuzu has survived this long.
 
P.S.- the final nail in the coffin will be the Isuzu compact pickup that will share everything with the upcoming redesigned Chevy S-10/Colorado.

#7 of 308 Just when you think... by rsholland

Mar 30, 2002 (9:09 am)

the manufacturers have discovered the perils of badge-engineering, GM pulls a stunt like this. They deserve whatever they get.
 
Bob

#8 of 308 by steve_ HOST

Mar 30, 2002 (8:02 pm)

"The Ascender is going to be a great addition to the line and should tap into a different group of customers,"
San Antonio Express-News

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#9 of 308 "Different group of customers" by diploid

Mar 30, 2002 (8:09 pm)

The ones that prefer to drive around in a Japanese badged Envoy XL?

#10 of 308 diploid by porknbeans

Mar 31, 2002 (5:09 pm)

I agree, probably also part of the same crowd that is chasing the Mazda Tribute.

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