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by ateixeira
Mar 26, 2002 (8:27 am)
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Another tid bit - VW will produce the Magellan, and base it on the Touareg/Cayenne chassis.
 
Which is interesting. This back-fired for Isuzu. The Axiom wasn't deemed car-like enough for buyers.
 
They insist it will be a crossover, not another SUV, and will compete with the Mercedes Vision. And Chrysler Pacifica, though they didn't mention it.
 
-juice
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CELs by paisan
Mar 26, 2002 (8:30 am)
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I'm pretty lucky I've filled the Trooper on occassion w/o even turning off the car and it didn't throw a CEL!
 
I liked the rear center fillers that my old GMs had either pump worked on them. But a filler on both sides would be nice.
 
-mike
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juice: repositioned filler? by lark6
Mar 26, 2002 (9:23 am)
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[quote]My Forester has it on the driver's side, and the position means you pretty much have to find a certain side free at the gas station.[/quote]
 
My Forester has it on the passenger's side. Did they flip-flop it from '98 to '00?
 
Bob: Yes I recognize the safety problems of the rear center gas filler. Neither the 'Stang nor the Stude have head rests on their seats - can you say 'whiplash'? I knew you could. A filler behind the rear window and ahead of the trunk opening on a sedan might be okay though.
 
Ed
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two gas filler by hypov
Mar 26, 2002 (9:34 am)
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ateixeira Mar 26, 2002 7:50am
 
agree with juice on the double annoyance.
 
Also, you'll have people filling their tanks with both fillers opened (Poodle in microwave theory).... and probably over fill their tank and not know until gas spurts out the other end.
 
-Dave
#55 of 14579
by ateixeira
Mar 26, 2002 (9:39 am)
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Oops, my goof, I meant passenger side. See? I have to keep trying to remember!
 
Bob: Ford didn't raise Expedition prices at all, isn't that funny? Shows how soft the big SUV market is, and how strong the luxury SUV market is (with huge increases for the Nav).
 
I was browsing Fitzmall.com, and found some interesting downward trends in pricing.
 
H6 Outback sedans have reached as low as $25,249. I had predicted $25k would come soon. There is a regional incentive of $500, and I predict $750 will come back, since that was offered last year. $25k is more like it. $33k really was ridiculous.
 
At $25k, I think I can get the wife to try one. Still, if the rebate hits $750, and they offer a manual for $770 less, that would be $24,229. That would be pretty easy to talk her into. C'mon Subaru.
 
Highlanders have dropped in price, too. They now have 4x4 V6 models under $28k, they used to be well into the 30s. Even with a moonroof it's under $29k, but that's without leather, which she wants. So it's still a stretch.
 
Avalanche for $23k? Oh, 4x2. Still, not bad. They have Grand Cherokees for $23,937, and that used to be a $28 grand vehicle. Most Troopers run $25 grand, but I predict that will dip further by fall.
 
So, profit margins on trucks is way down. I recall Jeep said it made $8,000 profit on each Grand Cherokee, but with these prices it's about half that much probably.
 
-juice
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Troopers by paisan
Mar 26, 2002 (9:41 am)
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are hard to come by. A lot of dealers are not even stocking them. It's funny cause the Assender is being delayed til Dec now due to crash-test problems.
 
-mike
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Expedition prices... by rsholland
Mar 26, 2002 (9:48 am)
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Yeah I just read that too. Although, they're raising prices of the similar Navigator. Maybe they're hoping whatever they lose on the Expedition, they make up on the Navigator, or at least some of it?
 
I haven't visited the Fits site in some time. That is good news, however—especially about the Highlander.
 
Bob
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Audi Magellan news... by rsholland
Mar 26, 2002 (9:49 am)
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http://autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code=carnews&loc_code=&content_code=05346512
 
Sounds like a direct competitor to the new Volvo XC90.
 
Bob
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GM to offer StabiliTrak on many more SUVs... by rsholland
Mar 26, 2002 (9:50 am)
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http://www.AutoWeek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code=carnews&loc_code=index&content_code=01423794
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by ateixeira
Mar 26, 2002 (12:31 pm)
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I missed that - it'll be an Audi, not a VW. OK, now the Mercedes target makes more sense (I was thinking Chrysler Pacifica). They'd better fix that hideously ugly rear first.
 
Even the Focus offers stability control. It's a mainstream technology now. Subaru has to work on something else to make the VDC stand out.
 
-juice

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