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#2492 of 14566 Heated seats & heated steering wheel by rsholland Nov 16, 2002 (6:49 am)
I think anyone who appreciates heated seats would also appreciate a heated steering wheel. It warms your hands very quickly, just as heated seats quickly warm your buns; and like heated seats, very comfy. I too am not fond of wearing gloves while driving, for the same reasons Paul mentioned. Bob
#2493 of 14566 Good gloves by lucien2 Nov 16, 2002 (10:13 am)
work just fine. I don't see too many race car drivers out there with bare hands. Just seems like another thing to fix when the car gets to be 10 years old or so.
#2494 of 14566 True... by rsholland Nov 16, 2002 (6:39 pm)
but I don't always carry gloves with me. In fact, I rarely have gloves with me unless it's around or below freezing. So, on those 35-40 degree days, I would welcome that feature. Bob
#2495 of 14566 Drove a new Montero yesterday... by rsholland Nov 17, 2002 (8:38 am)
Very impressed! It is much improved over previous models—including the styling. They now have a larger, more powerful 3.8L engine, and all models now come with an excellent 5-speed auto (w/tip-tronic), and full-time, dual-range 4WD (5-speed auto and full-time 4WD used to only come on the top-line Limited before), and fold-away 3rd-row seating (very similar to the Odyssey's). I stopped by a CarMax/Mitsubishi dealer in Laurel, MD and they had a good selection. A base XLS, with the optional "touring package" (huge moonroof, upgraded interior & audio) was discounted to $32.8K, which is about 2K below MSRP. All models also now have standard, an electronic anti-skid devise that can be turned off by the driver. Towing is 5000 braked, and 1500 unbraked. It's definitely on my short list to replace my Explorer, when that day comes! Bob
#2496 of 14566 by locke2c Nov 17, 2002 (9:48 am)
with the windchill around here in treeless Kansas, you won't ever find me without gloves in winter. -Colin
#2497 of 14566 Wow by paisan Nov 18, 2002 (4:10 am)
Glad you liked the Monty Bob. That is most likely going to be the replacement for my Trooper as it's my #2 favorite SUV out there! (even though it's uni-body ) -mike
#2498 of 14566 Montys by rsholland Nov 18, 2002 (6:05 am)
The last time I checked one out, was when this new body style came out, a couple of years ago. I liked it then too. However, the only one I would have considered at that time was the Limited, because it was the only one that came with the 5-speed tip-tronic and selectable full-time 4WD. The base model XLS only came with a 4-speed automatic and part-time 4WD. I also thought the Limited was way overpriced. And then there was the CR report... Now, for '03, all Monteros have the 5-speed/tip-tronic and the selectable full-time 4WD. In addition they all come with an electronic skid control, that can be deselected if need be. In addition they've gone from a 3.5L engine to a more powerful 3.8L, and have improved the EPA ratings slightly, as well. They're still not great, but any improvement helps. They've also improved the funky styling a bit. My choice would be the base XLS, with the "Touring Package," which includes that huge moonroof, upgraded seat material (but still cloth!) and upgraded audio. Bob
#2499 of 14566 by ateixeira Nov 18, 2002 (7:29 am)
they may really find fairies LOL! No, these are the stinkiest 'shrooms I've ever seen. Nasty. I actually raked them out. Copper Sulfate? Will Home Depot carry that stuff? It is toxic? This is on a playground. I guess heated steering wheels are yet another thing to break, but it's not like you have to fix it, so long as there isn't a short or something. Bob: folding seat like the Ody? Really? I thought it had 2 jump seats that folded to the sides. Sounds good. Did it feel at all tippy or trucky? Those are very tall. Did it have those huge wheels we saw at the NY Auto Show? I thought someone rolled one of those, I forget if it was CR. The anti-skid may prevent that, but I wonder if the track is wider. Was it a face-lift or a redesign? Looks like a face-lift, though I agree the changes are significant. -juice
#2500 of 14566 Yeah... by rsholland Nov 18, 2002 (7:43 am)
it's tall, but rides nice, due to the IFS/IRS. You'll never mistake it for a Subie going through the twisties... CR lifted the wheels going through their accident avoidance maneuvers, just like they did with the Trooper, and because of that, it's not recommended. This year, all Monteros have an electronic anti-skid feature, something like the Subie VDC I would guess, that the older Montys didn't have. Hopefully that addresses that issue. Yes, the third-row seat folds like the Odyssey. However, it seats only two, not three like the Honda. It's also much narrower than the Honda's. The 3rd seat legroom is lousy, and comfort ain't great either. But in an emergency, when you need the extra seating, it's there. Bob
#2501 of 14566 Strange Story by p0926 Nov 18, 2002 (8:00 am)
My front door bell rang Saturday afternoon and when I answered it, there was a man standing there clutching a sheaf of papers. He stated that he was looking for the Subaru dealership and couldn't find it but had noticed the Subaru in the driveway so he stopped hoping to get directions. Now the really weird thing is that the papers he was holding were MapQuest directions and they clearly showed that he had input the correct address for the dealership (located in a commercial stretch of a busy highway) but the step-by-step directions brought him straight to my street (located in a small quiet out of the way neighborhood). I can assure you that the dealership's address and mine have nothing in common and that the dealership is several miles away. My wife speculated that the word was out about what a strong advocate I was for all things Subaru and that this stranger was intentionally sent my way by the dealership and/or MapQuest to help sell him on Subarus. In fact, he was new car shopping and wanted to compare Subarus and he did ask me what I thought about them. Of course I told him I really liked my Forester and that I was already planning on my next new vehicle being a Subaru also. I then gave him the correct directions and sent him on his merry way. So, do you think I should get a partial commission if he ended up buying a Subaru? -Frank P.