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#16870 of 17151 Re: Winter has arrived! [colin_l]
Oct 17, 2012 (8:43 am)
I'm just razzing Juice. Truth is Beth has never warmed up to the OBW, and loves her minivans (all 4 that we've owned). When we are together, I drive - and 99% of the time its the van. When apart, she drives the van by choice.
#16871 of 17151 Re: Winter has arrived! [fibber2]
Oct 17, 2012 (1:11 pm)
I really prefer that my wife drive the Forester just because it is far more sure-footed in winter driving, and she's never been a fan of such conditions. When roads are dry, she likes to drive my Fiesta.
We tend to go with the "what is most practical?" argument when deciding who drives what. If I'm home and she just needs transportation, she takes the Fiesta. If I need cargo capacity, I'll take the Forester.
Of course, this is a new development! When I had the Escort, she wouldn't be caught dead driving it (or riding in it, for that matter!).
#16872 of 17151 Re: Winter has arrived! [fibber2]
Oct 17, 2012 (1:59 pm)
That's interesting to hear your wife wasn't keen on the Outback Steve. Rita never was happy with the Titan either. That was the reason I reluctantly sold when I did, we downsized to one car and Rita was never comfortable driving the Titan. I figured that was a recipe for disaster so the Subie had to go.
I am happy to report though that the guy who bought it is as car obsessed as I am. I also got way over black book value when I sold.
#16873 of 17151 Re: Winter has arrived! [hondafriek]
Oct 17, 2012 (6:30 pm)
Hey Pat. We had a pair of Toyota wagons (Camry & Corolla) prior to the OBW, yet she never had any objections to driving those. Somehow, the Subi just doesn't work for her. She complains about the seats, visibility, ride compliance, etc., and is very happy to get back into the van.
Of the 4 vans we've had, the '02 Honda Odyssey remains her favorite. She likes the Sienna way better than either of the new Honda or Toyota vans, however, so I guess this one is here to stay for a while.
#16874 of 17151 Re: Winter has arrived! [fibber2]
Oct 18, 2012 (12:01 pm)
It's a long story.
Neither of us wanted a minivan, but we knew we could benefit from the room.
She actually test drove one as far back as 2002, but there was no way. She got the Legacy wagon back then. That's about as big as she'd go.
Then it was my turn, but I didn't want to drive a van daily, so I compromised and agreed to get one only if I could have a roadster, so I got the NA Miata.
Then I got the minivan. Later I replaced the Miata with a new one (NC).
So the Miata is actually my daily, the van never was.
She drove the Legacy, traded for a 2009 Forester.
The van is the kids' car, we joke. We only use it when they're coming along with us.
It works for us. The Miata is actually a pretty good city car, for point and squirt driving, fits in small spaces, doesn't use too much gas.
The van is quieter and smoother on the highway, happier on long trips, when we need the space.
I could never drive a minivan daily. It's way too overkill for city driving.
#16875 of 17151 Re: Winter has arrived! [fibber2]
Oct 20, 2012 (2:53 pm)
Steve, somewhat of a comparison, before the Subaru we had a 93 Accord wagon somewhat similar size to the Subie. Rita drove this wagon all summer long for a number of years, I had my own car which was winter stored. Then we decided to go to one car after we gave up the cottage.
But Rita felt that the Subie was too big for her, go figure, and just didn't feel comfortable driving it. So came a reluctant sale since she wasn't comfortable we both felt it was a disaster waiting to happen if she was driving something she wasn't happy in.
Nov 16, 2012 (9:52 am)
Subaru recently let various auto journalists test drive 2014 Forester mules at their Japanese test track. Consensus was the 2014's a big improvement over the current Forester, with more room, more power, better fuel economy, nicer interior, and stronger structure. Subaru also added improvements to the AWD system, and lets the turbo version use regular gas!
is typical of the reviews.
#16877 of 17151 Re: 2014 Forester [kurtamaxxxguy]
Nov 16, 2012 (10:40 am)
Don't think I'd seen that one.
We've shared a few links in the Future Models thread, if you want to join that conversation.
#16878 of 17151 Re: 2014 Forester [kurtamaxxxguy]
Nov 16, 2012 (11:12 am)
I'm not overly impressed at this point. I like the steering/handling improvements. The visual changes are "meh" - it looks like a smaller version of the Outback, which is terribly ugly. I think they did a better job with the Forester's look, but all the nitpicky stuff I hate on the Outback is there on the Forester, too.
The only thing that really piques my interest is the turbo 2-liter, but you can't get it with a manual, so then my interest fades. That's okay, though. My current Forester is still new. There's always the next generation.
#16879 of 17151 Cars on this business trip
Nov 17, 2012 (1:44 pm)
Just returned from my annual week long opportunity to hobnob with my fellow wizards in the field of microelectronics failure analysis, this time in Phoenix. Just imagine 900+ geeks all under one roof! Amazing and terrible, all at the same time.... Characters from "The Big Bang Theory" brought to life.
So, this year's crop of rentals:
In NY (home to JFK) - 2013 Chevy Sonic. Detested it at first, but came to appreciate that it's at least a fair/good value for the asking price. Did OK on upstate highways, reasonable in congested driving. Indicated fuel economy of around 30 mpg over 100+ miles.
Phoenix (6 days) - 2013 Ford Focus. Very impressive. Interior room / comfort / trunk room / electronics. Huge letdown - the dry box automatic. Lift off the brake at a stoplight, and you are treated to a stuttering clutch experience until you get to about 5 mph. Shifting was nasty when cold, but became acceptable when warmed up. Never better than acceptable.....
NY (trip home) - 2012 Ford Escape. Last of the old model. Feels way better than the earlier versions I've driven over the 10+ years, but it will not be missed....