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Re: Edmunds likes the new Suzuki Kizashi—a lot! [ateixeira] by rsholland
Oct 16, 2009 (8:43 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 16, 2009 8:36 am)

6-speed manual only comes with FWD.
 
Suzuki is so small, as a company, it makes Subaru look huge. They don't have the money to do a larger one for the USA, and a smaller one for the rest of the world, hence the smaller euro-sized proportions—which I prefer, frankly.
 
Unless something weird/bad happens, I see this car putting Suzuki on the map for many more customers.
 
Bob
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Re: Edmunds likes the new Suzuki Kizashi—a lot! [ateixeira] by saedave
Oct 16, 2009 (9:37 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 16, 2009 8:36 am)

Wonder why they de-tuned the CVT model to 180hp. Concerns about transmission longevity?
 
More likely to obtain more torque at the low end of the curve. Let's hope that CVTs prove to be reliable; on-the-road consumer use may not be as taxing as off-road slogging that both Subaru and Suzuki models sometimes get.
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Re: Edmunds likes the new Suzuki Kizashi—a lot! [rsholland] by ateixeira
Oct 16, 2009 (10:29 am)
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Replying to: rsholland (Oct 16, 2009 8:43 am)

Legacy sales are way up with the biggie-sized interior, though. Same with the Forester.
 
It's designed for euro tastes, and odds are it won't do well here.
 
Another sedan about that same size was the previous Mazda6. It too never put a dent in Camcord sales.
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Re: Edmunds likes the new Suzuki Kizashi—a lot! [saedave] by ateixeira
Oct 16, 2009 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: saedave (Oct 16, 2009 9:37 am)

The surprising part, to me, is that the CVT could actually have taken advantage of that 5hp, by keeping the engine there for peak acceleration.
 
A peaky engine isn't a problem with a CVT because it can keep the engine near that peak!
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Re: Edmunds likes the new Suzuki Kizashi—a lot! [ateixeira] by saedave
Oct 16, 2009 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 16, 2009 10:30 am)

A peaky engine isn't a problem with a CVT because it can keep the engine near that peak!
 
BUT the maximum gear reduction of the CVT is somewhat limited. That means low speed torque must be adequate without changing to an overall drive ratio that does not yield the desired fuel economy.
 
Note the differences in torque curves of the Subaru 3.0 vs. the 3.6; the latter would be better with the CVT (if it can take that much power). There must be a reason the 3.6 still uses the 5-speed auto.
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Re: Edmunds likes the new Suzuki Kizashi—a lot! [ateixeira] by rsholland
Oct 16, 2009 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 16, 2009 10:29 am)

It will do much better for Suzuki than not having an entry in this market segment.
 
It's not going after Camcord sales, at least not directly. It's more aimed at Subaru, Mazda, VW, etc.
 
Bob
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Another very positive review of the new Suzuki Kizashi by rsholland
Oct 16, 2009 (5:42 pm)
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http://www.motorauthority.com/review/1036726_first-drive-2010-suzuki-kizashi
 
There are number of Subaru owners who think the new 2010 Legacy has gotten too large and too ugly. Just visit legacygt.com to see what I mean; they absolutely HATE the new Legacy. This Suzuki just may be for them, and other like-minded folks?
 
Bob
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Re: Another very positive review of the new Suzuki Kizashi [rsholland] by paisan
Oct 17, 2009 (3:58 pm)
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Replying to: rsholland (Oct 16, 2009 5:42 pm)

Depending on the HP put out by the 3.6L engine coupled with AWD and it might kick the crap out of the 3.6R.
 
-mike
Subaru Guru and Track Instructor
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Very weird accident by grahampeters
Oct 18, 2009 (1:05 am)
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G'day
 
As an Insurance Loss Adjuster, I get to see some weird accidents. For some reason, they seem more common in Sydney than Melbourne. I am not investigating this one, but it is going to be interesting for someone.
 
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/car-crahes-into-house-roof-in-par- klea/story-e6freuzr-1225787964203
 
The video is instructive, for the sense of wonderment of the policeman.
 
I particularly like the detail that, having climbed out of a car parked upside down in someone's roof space (in a generally flat suburb) the passenger got lost in the roof space.
 
The traffic light becoming lodged in someone else's roof 120m away is also a hint. I wonder if alcohol and speed were factors?
 
Cheers
 
Graham
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'10 OB 6MT by lucien2
Oct 18, 2009 (7:46 am)
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anyone driven one? Is it completely outclassed by the CVT (mileage/AWD system)?

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