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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=159086?tid=edmun- - - - ds.il.home.photopanel..1.*#2 The car is great looking from every angle. Best of all, it's fun to drive, and handles really well. Edmunds makes mention of the previous-gen, euro-sized, Legacy GT and the Acura TSX, and states the new Kizashi picks up where those two left off. Offered initially as a 185 hp 2.4 I-4, in FWD (6-speed and CVT) and AWD (CVT-only), but with a 3.6 V6 in the wings. Bob
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Replying to: rsholland (Oct 16, 2009 8:05 am) All in all, were I in the market for a sedan, I would give it a look. |
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Replying to: rsholland (Oct 16, 2009 8:05 am) Wonder why they de-tuned the CVT model to 180hp. Concerns about transmission longevity? I'd take the 185hp/6 speed manual anyway. 18" rims? 45 series tires? Wow. Especially at this price level. An AWD model with the 3.6l V6 sounds like a poor man's CTS to me. The $1,300 price tag for navigation includes a back-up camera and real-time traffic updates Hey Subaru, pay attention! That's how you package Navi. Looks good, but does the formula of a small car with no V6 at launch spell success in the USA? It has an uphill battle. |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 16, 2009 8:36 am)  Suzuki is so small, as a company, it makes Subaru look huge. They don't have the money to do a larger one for the USA, and a smaller one for the rest of the world, hence the smaller euro-sized proportions—which I prefer, frankly. Unless something weird/bad happens, I see this car putting Suzuki on the map for many more customers. Bob
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 16, 2009 8:36 am) More likely to obtain more torque at the low end of the curve. Let's hope that CVTs prove to be reliable; on-the-road consumer use may not be as taxing as off-road slogging that both Subaru and Suzuki models sometimes get.
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Replying to: rsholland (Oct 16, 2009 8:43 am) It's designed for euro tastes, and odds are it won't do well here. Another sedan about that same size was the previous Mazda6. It too never put a dent in Camcord sales.
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Replying to: saedave (Oct 16, 2009 9:37 am) A peaky engine isn't a problem with a CVT because it can keep the engine near that peak!
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 16, 2009 10:30 am) BUT the maximum gear reduction of the CVT is somewhat limited. That means low speed torque must be adequate without changing to an overall drive ratio that does not yield the desired fuel economy. Note the differences in torque curves of the Subaru 3.0 vs. the 3.6; the latter would be better with the CVT (if it can take that much power). There must be a reason the 3.6 still uses the 5-speed auto. |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 16, 2009 10:29 am) It's not going after Camcord sales, at least not directly. It's more aimed at Subaru, Mazda, VW, etc. Bob |
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http://www.motorauthority.com/review/1036726_first-drive-2010-suzuki-kizashi There are number of Subaru owners who think the new 2010 Legacy has gotten too large and too ugly. Just visit legacygt.com to see what I mean; they absolutely HATE the new Legacy. This Suzuki just may be for them, and other like-minded folks? Bob
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