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Replying to: colin_l (Jul 24, 2009 11:02 am) Let's see, in the past 2 years we've purchased 3 new cars, so my entire fleet has changed. 98 Forester -> 07 Sienna Had to get a van as a trip/family car. Don't regret it, either, as it just carried 2 familes to the beach, New York, Philly, all over the place in comfort and silence. The engine's a gem, though I wish the tranny would keep up with it, and the steering is more isolated than Antarctica, but it has 3 acres of space. Add a DVD player for the kids and it's the ideal family van. I especially love the power sliding doors. 02 Legacy -> 09 Forester 2.5i Limited This is the wife's car. She actually never loved the Legacy, but ironically I applied no pressure at all this time, and this was her choice, plus she LOVES it. The 09 has about a foot more rear leg room than my 98 had. 93 Miata -> 08 Miata PRHT Touring Could have used your advice a few months ago, but I think you'd be proud of me - I got the sportiest Miata you can get, basically. The PRHT has fatter sway bars standard, plus I got the close-ratio 6 speed, summer gumball tires, and the Torsen LSD. There's still too much body roll but that's OK for DC's potholes, much stiffer and I don't think I could drive it daily. I still miss the 93, the plain old simplicity. But it was aging. It would have need new carpeting, new top, and shocks. The big rebates came and I caved. No more new cars for a decade or so, we hope. |
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Replying to: colin_l (Jul 24, 2009 11:02 am) I toyed with the idea of a CPO Bimmer too, but then I remembered the maintenance costs on your M3. It was an M of course, but still. I'm not sure the car wouldn't end up soaking me in the long run. WRX.....so nice. But I drive a lot, and the mileage is a downer. Now, coming from the "fun to drive slow cars fast" approach, the Honda Fit has much going for it. IF one can get past the idea of being a honda owner. quick, nicely weighted steering, direct point-and-shoot demeanor, frugal, versatile, and inexpensive. We could end up needing 2 cars in the next 2 years, and right now I'd say it would be 2010 Fit, 2012 Outback. Time (and the economy) will tell. 
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Replying to: lucien2 (Jul 27, 2009 1:34 pm) Mobil1 10w30 every 5k (or so  ) Purolator PureOne OE-type filter Had a HKS drop-in foam air filter for >50k-- went back to paper after the AccessPort NGK Iridium plugs every 25k--ish And that's it. Absolutely nothing electronical, mechanical, or spiritual has gone wrong in 78k miles.  Meanwhile, between 58k when I bought it and 78k by this point with my E36 M3, I would have already been to the shop at least 4 times for an average of $500 a whack. Course, my Evo doesn't have a trip computer, seat heater, or even variable valve timing. Juice-- hope you do get those 10 years. But anything over 4 is gravy, right?
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Replying to: lilbluewgn02 (Jul 23, 2009 1:15 pm) I actually don't have a website, how weird is that in this day & age. I put some pics on my CarSpace profile, but I'm not sure if I can get away with a few kiddo pics there. (It's not really about cars at that point, eh.) I'll see what I can do.. |
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http://www.autoobserver.com/2009/07/diesels-paying-back-quicker-than-hybrids-edm- - - undscom-reports.html Time to bring the Subie diesel over, me thinks... Bob
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Replying to: colin_l (Jul 27, 2009 7:17 pm) Let's see, I got 7 out of an Escort GT, 9 out of a Forester, maybe 10 is a bit optimistic. Though I am splitting the mileage between two new cars, and my wife is now working from home, so her miles dropped a lot. |
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Replying to: rsholland (Jul 29, 2009 4:53 am) First, this probably assumes current pricing, yet diesel usually cost more, at times a lot more. Plus if diesels become popular, demand increases, as do prices. Around me when gas hit $3.50 diesel was well over $4 per gallon. I saw differences of close to $1/gallon. Second, I wonder if they are considering the cost of clean diesels with urea injection technology, which costs a bit more than some of today's not-quite-as-clean diesels. Looking at real-world examples, a Jetta costs more than a Prius, and the Prius' regular fuel is cheaper to boot. Spend less now and less to fuel it while getting higher mileage the entire time. I'm sure the Jetta is more fun, but remember, we're looking strictly at costs. Then look at the BMW 335d and it's price. It performs like a 330i but costs the same as a 335i. I believe the price is some $8 grand higher than the identical 0-60 performing 330i, so there may not ever be a pay-back. I calculated a break-even for a diesel Forester (with lots of assumptions) and I think it was 8 years or so, but it would be even longer now because fuel prices dropped.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 29, 2009 7:02 am) The average diesel-engine premium, meanwhile, currently is just $2,360 Maybe but most of those are not the latest urea-injection clean diesels, the amount will increase when we get those. Also, they compare a Benz with a V6 diesel to a V8? C'mon, performance costs money. That does explain why the "premium" is so low, though. 2.53 per gallon for gasoline and $2.54 for diesel Not around me. Maybe in other parts of the county but I still see anywhere from 10-80 cents premium per gallon of diesel. There must be places where diesel is actually cheaper, bringing down the average, but here in the Mid-atlantic I haven't seen that. BMW's 335d, at 5.6 years to pay back a $2,558 premium I bet they are comparing to a 335i, and not a 330i, which is what they should be comparing it too. They sure do make a whole bunch of diesel-biased assumptions. Funny thing is, they really don't need to. The numbers may still be favorable even if they were completely fair.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 29, 2009 7:14 am) The 335d is actually $10,300 more costly than the 328i (I said 330i earlier, so I got the model name wrong). Note that C&D tested both and 0-60 was identical, exactly the same down to the 10th of a second. Yet Edmunds is comparing the 335d to the 335i, which is a whole lot quicker. I'm sure if you adjust for content and factor the rebates the differene is more like $8 grand, which is what I predicted in the first place, but most certainly not the $2,588 that was mentioned in the article, not by a long shot. |
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http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/30/live-reveal-2010-suzuki-kizashi/ ...And yes, AWD will be available as an option ...And yes, this could put a hurting on the new Legacy sedan. The question is will this be the "Hail Mary" that saves Suzuki here in the USA? It's got the looks, and the specs (so far) look good as well. Man... this soooooo much better looking than the Legacy it's scary. Bob
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