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#14110 of 14582 Re: Saw the '10 Outback today [colin_l] by p0926 Jul 24, 2009 (10:34 am)
Replying to: colin_l (Jul 20, 2009 7:49 am) Colin- Welcome back! Yep Juice or Bob still pose the $100k wish list every holiday season -Frank
#14111 of 14582 Re: My next car [rsholland] by colin_l Jul 24, 2009 (11:02 am)
Replying to: rsholland (Jul 24, 2009 7:07 am) Everything they said about it being impractical is true about my Evo, too. The trunk originally was bigger in mine (the EvoX's trunk is comical) but thanks to my sound system, mine is laughable. Been that way for 5 years.. I can't believe anyone would pay $42k for an Evo, though. That's totally insane. My initial list would be: - New WRX 5 door. Looks pretty good on paper. My Subaru experience was mostly positive and the negatives were mostly my own doing. - New Jetta TDI. Great gas mileage, well reviewed, a lot of car for the money. I'd be a bit nervous about German cars Hecho en Mexico, though. - Used BMW 335i... maybe. Might be able to get a 2007 CPO for under $30k. And under $30k is definitely where I would want to be. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Jul 27, 2009 9:17 am) lucien2 (Jul 27, 2009 1:34 pm) colin_l (Jul 27, 2009 7:17 pm) ateixeira (Jul 29, 2009 6:52 am)
#14112 of 14582 Re: My next car [colin_l] by ateixeira Jul 27, 2009 (9:17 am)
Replying to: colin_l (Jul 24, 2009 11:02 am) Good to see you again, Colin. Let's see, in the past 2 years we've purchased 3 new cars, so my entire fleet has changed. 98 Forester -> 07 Sienna Had to get a van as a trip/family car. Don't regret it, either, as it just carried 2 familes to the beach, New York, Philly, all over the place in comfort and silence. The engine's a gem, though I wish the tranny would keep up with it, and the steering is more isolated than Antarctica, but it has 3 acres of space. Add a DVD player for the kids and it's the ideal family van. I especially love the power sliding doors. 02 Legacy -> 09 Forester 2.5i Limited This is the wife's car. She actually never loved the Legacy, but ironically I applied no pressure at all this time, and this was her choice, plus she LOVES it. The 09 has about a foot more rear leg room than my 98 had. 93 Miata -> 08 Miata PRHT Touring Could have used your advice a few months ago, but I think you'd be proud of me - I got the sportiest Miata you can get, basically. The PRHT has fatter sway bars standard, plus I got the close-ratio 6 speed, summer gumball tires, and the Torsen LSD. There's still too much body roll but that's OK for DC's potholes, much stiffer and I don't think I could drive it daily. I still miss the 93, the plain old simplicity. But it was aging. It would have need new carpeting, new top, and shocks. The big rebates came and I caved. No more new cars for a decade or so, we hope.
#14113 of 14582 Re: My next car [colin_l] by lucien2 Jul 27, 2009 (1:34 pm)
Replying to: colin_l (Jul 24, 2009 11:02 am) I'm a LOT nervous about hecho en Mexico. I don't know many Puebla VW owners who didn't have long-term issues. Even my friend's German-made Passat has ongoing niggles...mostly electrical. Shocking, I know. I toyed with the idea of a CPO Bimmer too, but then I remembered the maintenance costs on your M3. It was an M of course, but still. I'm not sure the car wouldn't end up soaking me in the long run. WRX.....so nice. But I drive a lot, and the mileage is a downer. Now, coming from the "fun to drive slow cars fast" approach, the Honda Fit has much going for it. IF one can get past the idea of being a honda owner. quick, nicely weighted steering, direct point-and-shoot demeanor, frugal, versatile, and inexpensive. We could end up needing 2 cars in the next 2 years, and right now I'd say it would be 2010 Fit, 2012 Outback. Time (and the economy) will tell. Replies to this message: colin_l (Jul 27, 2009 7:17 pm) ateixeira (Jul 29, 2009 6:52 am)
#14114 of 14582 Re: My next car [lucien2] by colin_l Jul 27, 2009 (7:17 pm)
Replying to: lucien2 (Jul 27, 2009 1:34 pm) Good point about maintenance, Loosh. I'm now at 78k on my Evo. I have a full turbo-back 3" exhaust and a Cobb Accessport, and I run 22 psi. Not one damn problem with the car, and it's a tad quick. (Should be around 330-350 horsepower.) Mobil1 10w30 every 5k (or so ) Purolator PureOne OE-type filter Had a HKS drop-in foam air filter for >50k-- went back to paper after the AccessPort NGK Iridium plugs every 25k--ish And that's it. Absolutely nothing electronical, mechanical, or spiritual has gone wrong in 78k miles. Meanwhile, between 58k when I bought it and 78k by this point with my E36 M3, I would have already been to the shop at least 4 times for an average of $500 a whack. Course, my Evo doesn't have a trip computer, seat heater, or even variable valve timing. Juice-- hope you do get those 10 years. But anything over 4 is gravy, right? Replies to this message: ateixeira (Jul 29, 2009 6:52 am)
#14115 of 14582 Re: Hey Colin [lilbluewgn02] by colin_l Jul 27, 2009 (7:24 pm)
Replying to: lilbluewgn02 (Jul 23, 2009 1:15 pm) Hi Serge! I actually don't have a website, how weird is that in this day & age. I put some pics on my CarSpace profile, but I'm not sure if I can get away with a few kiddo pics there. (It's not really about cars at that point, eh.) I'll see what I can do..
#14116 of 14582 Edmunds states diesels pay back quicker than hybrids by rsholland Jul 29, 2009 (4:53 am)
http://www.autoobserver.com/2009/07/diesels-paying-back-quicker-than-hybrids-edm- - - undscom-reports.html Time to bring the Subie diesel over, me thinks... Bob Replies to this message: ateixeira (Jul 29, 2009 7:02 am) ateixeira (Jul 29, 2009 7:14 am) ateixeira (Jul 29, 2009 7:23 am)
#14117 of 14582 Re: My next car [colin_l] by ateixeira Jul 29, 2009 (6:52 am)
Replying to: colin_l (Jul 27, 2009 7:17 pm) Just 4? Let's see, I got 7 out of an Escort GT, 9 out of a Forester, maybe 10 is a bit optimistic. Though I am splitting the mileage between two new cars, and my wife is now working from home, so her miles dropped a lot.
#14118 of 14582 Re: Edmunds states diesels pay back quicker than hybrids [rsholland] by ateixeira Jul 29, 2009 (7:02 am)
Replying to: rsholland (Jul 29, 2009 4:53 am) 2 things I'll mention..... First, this probably assumes current pricing, yet diesel usually cost more, at times a lot more. Plus if diesels become popular, demand increases, as do prices. Around me when gas hit $3.50 diesel was well over $4 per gallon. I saw differences of close to $1/gallon. Second, I wonder if they are considering the cost of clean diesels with urea injection technology, which costs a bit more than some of today's not-quite-as-clean diesels. Looking at real-world examples, a Jetta costs more than a Prius, and the Prius' regular fuel is cheaper to boot. Spend less now and less to fuel it while getting higher mileage the entire time. I'm sure the Jetta is more fun, but remember, we're looking strictly at costs. Then look at the BMW 335d and it's price. It performs like a 330i but costs the same as a 335i. I believe the price is some $8 grand higher than the identical 0-60 performing 330i, so there may not ever be a pay-back. I calculated a break-even for a diesel Forester (with lots of assumptions) and I think it was 8 years or so, but it would be even longer now because fuel prices dropped. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Jul 29, 2009 7:14 am) ateixeira (Jul 29, 2009 7:23 am)
#14119 of 14582 Re: Edmunds states diesels pay back quicker than hybrids [ateixeira] by ateixeira Jul 29, 2009 (7:14 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 29, 2009 7:02 am) Some more details for the article... The average diesel-engine premium, meanwhile, currently is just $2,360 Maybe but most of those are not the latest urea-injection clean diesels, the amount will increase when we get those. Also, they compare a Benz with a V6 diesel to a V8? C'mon, performance costs money. That does explain why the "premium" is so low, though. 2.53 per gallon for gasoline and $2.54 for diesel Not around me. Maybe in other parts of the county but I still see anywhere from 10-80 cents premium per gallon of diesel. There must be places where diesel is actually cheaper, bringing down the average, but here in the Mid-atlantic I haven't seen that. BMW's 335d, at 5.6 years to pay back a $2,558 premium I bet they are comparing to a 335i, and not a 330i, which is what they should be comparing it too. They sure do make a whole bunch of diesel-biased assumptions. Funny thing is, they really don't need to. The numbers may still be favorable even if they were completely fair. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Jul 29, 2009 7:23 am)