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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 19, 2009 10:40 am)  Bob
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Replying to: rsholland (Jun 19, 2009 10:43 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 19, 2009 11:04 am) We have a ton of Subarus up here in Portland OR and I suspect our local area could easily make a huge parade of Subarus.
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Jun 19, 2009 8:50 pm) 
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cars101.com posted this info (edited for main Subaru info): 6/22 JD Power 90 day new car problem survey for 2009...... Overall, the industry average for initial quality is 108 problems per 100 (new) vehicles (PP100) in 2009, down from 118 PP100 in 2008... Subaru is #28 on the 2009 list with app 130 PP100 cars sold. At the bottom is Hummer, Jeep, Saab, Smart, Land Rover, and Mini. So Subaru is now well below Industry average? What happened? And will this get worse when the new '10 Legacy and Outback hit the streets?
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Jun 24, 2009 4:11 pm) |
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Jun 24, 2009 4:11 pm) Doesn't matter - what matters is long-term reliability. IMHO their 5 year Durability study is far more important, and Subaru does better in that study. Think about it - this is just 90 days, and you're not only under warranty, but even within the adjustment period, so you'll get even new windshield wipers replaced for free if they're streaking too much. Point is - who cares? Those problems won't cost you anything. We're discussing this at length in the thread called "Is there room for Hyundai in the Luxury Segment" (something like that). Jesse Snyder from Automotive News wrote: The difference between fifth place (Honda) and 24th place (Saturn) is one-fifth of a flaw per vehicle Then joked: Gee, guess I'll use that as my No. 26 tie-breaker in my decision [of which car to buy]. With AWD on every car, there is an extra drive shafts, two extra half shafts, an extra rear diff, plus most of them have extra features like heated seats, mirrors, wiper de-icers, etc. The H-4 engines have twice the number of camshafts, valve covers, and head gaskets. More potential defects, basically. I think the IQS issues are more likely little things like rattles or paint chips, though. Long-term Subaru beats the industry average by quite a bit. |
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They are trying to have the largest parade of Subarus ever in a small town just outside of Chicago. Why the heck they are not doing this in the NW puzzles me... On other hand, is anyone from the NW USA considering going to this? There are a couple people I could visit on the trip, but it would add 6000 miles to my 'Bu. |
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Was a CVT model. From side and front it looks a lot like the '09/10 Forester, but with more slope to hatch. Interior arm rests reminded me of Saturn Aura; upper door trim was very dark. Lots of shiny aluminum trim on the console. Car was still wrapped in plastic and tape from shipping so will have to wait until dealer puts it on display to see what interior is really like.
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| autonetwork.com has the '10 Subaru Legacy Technical and Marketing presentation of June 23, 2009. Lasts an hour - goes into extensive detail. | |
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