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#14084 of 14598 Re: Dealer car loaners [lucien2] by ateixeira Jun 17, 2009 (8:07 am)
Replying to: lucien2 (Jun 09, 2009 4:22 am) Good call about the hinge, and that's something that I even made a point to show Bob. Nice to see a Japanese auto maker make that slip (Toyota still doesn't and Honda moved to liftgates after never fixing that).
#14085 of 14598 Want to take part in a world record? by rsholland Jun 19, 2009 (7:43 am)
SOA is planning on setting a world record for the most Subies in a parade. Check it out. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=27140354#post27140354 Bob Replies to this message: ateixeira (Jun 19, 2009 10:40 am) rsholland (Jun 19, 2009 10:43 am) ateixeira (Jun 19, 2009 11:04 am) and 2 more...
#14086 of 14598 Re: Want to take part in a world record? [rsholland] by ateixeira Jun 19, 2009 (10:40 am)
Replying to: rsholland (Jun 19, 2009 7:43 am) If it snows, more people show up vs. no snow. Replies to this message: rsholland (Jun 19, 2009 10:43 am) ateixeira (Jun 19, 2009 11:04 am) kurtamaxxxguy (Jun 19, 2009 8:50 pm) and 1 more...
#14087 of 14598 Re: Want to take part in a world record? [ateixeira] by rsholland Jun 19, 2009 (10:43 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 19, 2009 10:40 am) This is next month and in Illinois, so I doubt it will snow. Bob Replies to this message: ateixeira (Jun 19, 2009 11:04 am) kurtamaxxxguy (Jun 19, 2009 8:50 pm) ateixeira (Jun 22, 2009 11:34 am)
#14088 of 14598 Re: Want to take part in a world record? [rsholland] by ateixeira Jun 19, 2009 (11:04 am)
Replying to: rsholland (Jun 19, 2009 10:43 am) Yeah, I just remembered that gathering paisan shared pics from, with a pair of XTs and an SVX. The snow seemed to bring more people out than normal. Replies to this message: kurtamaxxxguy (Jun 19, 2009 8:50 pm) ateixeira (Jun 22, 2009 11:34 am)
#14089 of 14598 Re: Want to take part in a world record? [ateixeira] by kurtamaxxxguy Jun 19, 2009 (8:50 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 19, 2009 11:04 am) Why the heck doesn't Subaru NW try these kinds of things? We have a ton of Subarus up here in Portland OR and I suspect our local area could easily make a huge parade of Subarus. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Jun 22, 2009 11:34 am)
#14090 of 14598 Re: Want to take part in a world record? [kurtamaxxxguy] by ateixeira Jun 22, 2009 (11:34 am)
Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Jun 19, 2009 8:50 pm) Maybe the city isn't big enough for all the Subies in the NW.
#14091 of 14598 Subaru quality slipping? by kurtamaxxxguy Jun 24, 2009 (4:11 pm)
cars101.com posted this info (edited for main Subaru info): 6/22 JD Power 90 day new car problem survey for 2009...... Overall, the industry average for initial quality is 108 problems per 100 (new) vehicles (PP100) in 2009, down from 118 PP100 in 2008... Subaru is #28 on the 2009 list with app 130 PP100 cars sold. At the bottom is Hummer, Jeep, Saab, Smart, Land Rover, and Mini. So Subaru is now well below Industry average? What happened? And will this get worse when the new '10 Legacy and Outback hit the streets? Replies to this message: snowbelter (Jun 24, 2009 5:09 pm) ateixeira (Jun 25, 2009 10:09 am)
#14092 of 14598 Re: Subaru quality slipping? [kurtamaxxxguy] by snowbelter Jun 24, 2009 (5:09 pm)
Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Jun 24, 2009 4:11 pm) Subaru has been below the median for the past two or three years (at least since I've been following the JD Powers 90 day new car ratings.) My 07 Outback arrived with rattles, misaligned headlights, etc. The odd thing is that Subarus tend to do betterin ratings as they age. My wife's 09 Forester was delivered with a defective clock, but hasn't had any other problems, so it seems to have come off the line in decent shape.
#14093 of 14598 Re: Subaru quality slipping? [kurtamaxxxguy] by ateixeira Jun 25, 2009 (10:09 am)
Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Jun 24, 2009 4:11 pm) Actually, it's been longer than 3 years, I recall way back in 1998 Subaru was slightly below average in this survey. Doesn't matter - what matters is long-term reliability. IMHO their 5 year Durability study is far more important, and Subaru does better in that study. Think about it - this is just 90 days, and you're not only under warranty, but even within the adjustment period, so you'll get even new windshield wipers replaced for free if they're streaking too much. Point is - who cares? Those problems won't cost you anything. We're discussing this at length in the thread called "Is there room for Hyundai in the Luxury Segment" (something like that). Jesse Snyder from Automotive News wrote: The difference between fifth place (Honda) and 24th place (Saturn) is one-fifth of a flaw per vehicle Then joked: Gee, guess I'll use that as my No. 26 tie-breaker in my decision [of which car to buy]. With AWD on every car, there is an extra drive shafts, two extra half shafts, an extra rear diff, plus most of them have extra features like heated seats, mirrors, wiper de-icers, etc. The H-4 engines have twice the number of camshafts, valve covers, and head gaskets. More potential defects, basically. I think the IQS issues are more likely little things like rattles or paint chips, though. Long-term Subaru beats the industry average by quite a bit.