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Re: Drove a Cube and a Soul today. [rsholland] by tsy
Jun 04, 2009 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: rsholland (Jun 03, 2009 12:20 pm)

I agree Bob, the seats are fine for everyday reasonably agressive driving. I would say they're not so ideal for the track though.
 
I do like the Recaros in the Evo X and wish we had them here- but oh well.
 
I just put my summer wheels and tires on my STi yesterday- will have to post some pics when I have time.
 
tom
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Re: Dealer car loaners [tsy] by ateixeira
Jun 04, 2009 (8:44 am)
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Replying to: tsy (Jun 04, 2009 8:00 am)

I sampled the Pioneers in a store, and wasn't impressed. Same issue I had with the built-in one in the Forester - clumsy interface.
 
I'm a software guy, so I pay attention to ease of use a lot. That's where Garmin wins, in my book.
 
I would pay a little more and get the Kenwood you also mentioned. They're closer to $800 or so, but again you get the Garmin navigation.
 
Click for pic: http://carjamz.com/zen/images/DNX7120.jpg
 
I will say this - it's really not that hard to install a double-DIN sized stereo, and cars like the Impreza and Forester have that perfect, standard sized opening. Add a harness and it's truly plug-and-play, no splicing required, though you will have to open up the center console and dash. It's not as hard as it sounds.
 
For $1800 I'd just like to see more features to justify the more-than-double price, such a big screen, backup cam, bluetooth integrated, voice commands, etc.
 
The catch, though, is you remove the 6CD changer to install that. If that's the plan it may make more sense to get a more basic model, so you're only giving up a single CD, and spending less on the vehicle to begin with.
 
I think if I had bought that Miata Sport instead of the Touring I'd be shopping for a Kenwood 7120 right now, instead of the portable.
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Re: Dealer car loaners [ateixeira] by volkov
Jun 04, 2009 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 04, 2009 8:44 am)

Cool pic. With that, Bugs would have made it to the Le Brea tar-pits instead of winding up in Scotland!
Some like the Highlander Hybrid keep the CD player hidden behind the nav screen which tilts away. That's nice.
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Re: Dealer car loaners [volkov] by ateixeira
Jun 04, 2009 (12:09 pm)
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Replying to: volkov (Jun 04, 2009 11:28 am)

Yeah - and careful with the AVIC models, the early ones had ONE single CD/DVD slot, so if you had the Nav DVD in there you could not listen to music on CDs at all. You had to pre-load the route and then insert the CD to hear music.
 
To me that was a deal killer.
 
Later AVIC models were better, but I still didn't like the interface.
 
Just read one of Bob's old e-mails and the 2010 Forester with Nav actually has Bluetooth integrated.
 
I'd still like to see a bigger screen (it's 6.5", isn't it?) and especially a backup cam.
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Re: Dealer car loaners [ateixeira] by tsy
Jun 04, 2009 (12:35 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 04, 2009 12:09 pm)

What's a CD?
 
I think CD's are headed the way of 8 track tape!
 
As long as a stereo has an iPod or aux input, it's all I need.
 
I think the newer AVIC models are much better than the old ones.
 
If you need a bigger screen just have an aftermarket 20" installed!
 
tom
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Re: Dealer car loaners [tsy] by volkov
Jun 04, 2009 (5:43 pm)
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Replying to: tsy (Jun 04, 2009 12:35 pm)

Very true, so many today only keep the CDs at home if at all. Much like the old days when you bought the vinyl and then taped it to play in the car.
 
I had an 8-track in the 77 Mustang Ghia back in high school. Decent selection of tunes took up the whole back seat!
 
Edit: the upside was that they were dirt cheap in the bargain bins.
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So Rally fans, have you seen this?? by volkov
Jun 04, 2009 (9:13 pm)
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Man these guys were lucky!!
 
http://ca.video.yahoo.com/watch/5231876/13809646
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Re: So Rally fans, have you seen this?? [volkov] by xwesx
Jun 05, 2009 (8:27 am)
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Replying to: volkov (Jun 04, 2009 9:13 pm)

Wow.... that was darned near a human shish-kabob, right there!
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Re: Dealer car loaners [tsy] by ateixeira
Jun 05, 2009 (8:38 am)
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Replying to: tsy (Jun 04, 2009 12:35 pm)

Aux input is OK, but let's take that a step further and ask for a USB input.
 
The USB input can even charger your iPod, or you can just plug in a plain old $5 flash drive and put music on there.
 
With that, the CD drive becomes obsolete.
 
2010 Outbacks - higher end models only of course - will get that.
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Re: Dealer car loaners [ateixeira] by lucien2
Jun 05, 2009 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 05, 2009 8:38 am)

and that's just dumb. A $15k Honda Fit and Nissan Cube have that. $16K Kias have USB integration. Subaru needs it badly, on ALL models.

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