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Re: Stock Bridgestones.. [kyfdx] by volkov
Dec 15, 2008 (1:59 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 15, 2008 1:07 pm)

Nice try, but mine are safely tucked in the basement for winter! But seriously, I made a point of going the other way ie. smaller rims for winter given my lousy winter driving conditions. I for one am very happy about having purely summer tires on the new WRX as I always switch wheels for the seasons.
If Subie did spec A/S tires which performed better in winter, their summer performance would almost certainly suffer. Reviewers can be significantly swayed by such things, and in fact you'll often read when they have comparos that Car B would have scored better with grippier tires blah, blah, blah. To wit, if you want to win one of these "shootouts" and generate more sales, put on tires that will stink in winter. It was in fact one of the repeated knocks against the older WRXs (RE-92s) and a big plus in reviews of the new one with the Dunlops. They never do those tests in winter onditions it seems, because the result would have been the opposite.
There is certainly a difference between what you expect from a WRX or an Impreza sedan, but the above principles still apply.
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Re: Stock Bridgestones.. [volkov] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 15, 2008 (2:05 pm)
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Replying to: volkov (Dec 15, 2008 1:59 pm)

I understand the trade-offs you have to deal with on tires... I'm just saying the choices they made suck for an Impreza.. Plus, they really aren't that great in the dry, either....
 
I'd understand on a WRX...
 
I really would like to find a cheap set of 17" alloys that fit... Those winter tires are left over from my wife's 330ci.. It would make it much more likely that the stock tires would still be acceptable at the end of my 30K lease, as well...
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Re: Stock Bridgestones.. [kyfdx] by xwesx
Dec 15, 2008 (2:13 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 15, 2008 2:05 pm)

I think the key is finding a *cheap* set. Otherwise, purchasing a new set of 16" winter tires and having them mounted might be a less expensive proposition - especially if the 17" tires only have a winter left on them and you would have to replace again while you are leasing the Subaru. 17" tires are considerably more expensive than 16", at least from what I found when I was looking at winter tires on the '07 Outback (with 16" steelies) and the '08 Outback (with 17" alloys).
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Re: Stock Bridgestones.. [xwesx] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 15, 2008 (2:18 pm)
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Replying to: xwesx (Dec 15, 2008 2:13 pm)

I agree.. I wouldn't buy a whole set of winter tires/wheels. I don't like the tires, but they aren't going to kill me. (Even though they almost got the neighbor's mailbox).
 
I'm only musing, because I already have those winter tires... I think even 90% worn, they'd be better than the stock all-seasons in the winter.. My wife's convertible was a tank with them on...
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Rumor has it Subaru dropping out of WRC... by rsholland
Dec 15, 2008 (5:15 pm)
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This due to the economic conditions. I'll have blog up in the morning of about a bunch of car companies pulling their racing teams from various venues.
 
Bob
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Re: Rumor has it Subaru dropping out of WRC... [rsholland] by hammerhead
Dec 16, 2008 (4:57 am)
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Replying to: rsholland (Dec 15, 2008 5:15 pm)

Heard the Subaru WRC story on BBC this morning...
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Re: Rumor has it Subaru dropping out of WRC... [hammerhead] by rsholland
Dec 16, 2008 (6:30 am)
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Replying to: hammerhead (Dec 16, 2008 4:57 am)

Yep. Subaru out of WRC—along with a bunch of other race teams pulling out of various racing venues!
 
http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightline/2008/12/porsche-honda-motorcycles-suzuki-c- ars-and-subaru-cut-racing-teams.html
 
Bob
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Economy by lucien2
Dec 16, 2008 (7:21 am)
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Lots of people close to me are losing jobs. Good jobs. Tremendously talented people. I'm beginning to think this might be a 2+ year deep freeze after all.
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Re: Rumor has it Subaru dropping out of WRC... [rsholland] by volkov
Dec 16, 2008 (10:09 am)
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Replying to: rsholland (Dec 16, 2008 6:30 am)

What's next?? "We've decided not to continue with this boxer engine and AWD thing." I mean Subie and WRC has been an association for longer than the AWD only product line - minicars excepted.
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Re: Rumor has it Subaru dropping out of WRC... [volkov] by rsholland
Dec 16, 2008 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: volkov (Dec 16, 2008 10:09 am)

This strictly about money, and the current global economic crunch. It's not about marketing. FWIW, SOA is going to continue with their rally team here.
 
Bob

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