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Re: Drove a Smart this weekend [ateixeira]
by p0926
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Aug 01, 2008 (2:25 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 31, 2008 12:33 pm)
Hmm... I think I'll stick with my over-priced impractical Teutonic 2-seat hard-top convertible
-Frank
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Subaru bucked the trend.
by kurtamaxxxguy
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Aug 03, 2008 (6:39 pm)
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For July 2008 Subaru (USA) had a 4.5 % increase in sales, behind Damer AG (12.5%) but ahead of American Honda (3.2%).
Everyone else (save whoever is in "other), lost ground.
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Re: Subaru bucked the trend. [kurtamaxxxguy]
by ateixeira
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Aug 04, 2008 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Aug 03, 2008 6:39 pm)
I'm impressed that they have not lost sales, like nearly everyone else. The Impreza was brand new a year ago, too.
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Re: Subaru bucked the trend. [ateixeira]
by volkov
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Aug 04, 2008 (2:42 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 04, 2008 5:44 am)
And a ince increase in Canada too. 16000 units in USA and 2000 units in Canada in July according to the stats I saw. The big problem though is that Subaru may find the hype of the new Forester is passed by the time they finally have stock available when it comes to "new-to-Subaru" buyers. I wonder what happened here? Maybe being conservative with production until they saw the reception of the new model. It is a missed opportunity every time one of the articles comes out praising the F-09 and consumers can't just march down to the dealer to see/drive the model they might want. Newbies might just move on.
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Re: Subaru bucked the trend. [volkov]
by ateixeira
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Aug 06, 2008 (5:33 am)
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Replying to: volkov (Aug 04, 2008 2:42 pm)
Good point, and furthermore they REALLY screwed up the model mix.
The Limited is in very short supply, one buyer had to order one and may have to wait 10-12 weeks! Yikes!
They thought the Premium model was going to be the volume model, but that no longer has the AWP standard, so that surely pushed some people up towards the Limited. Now that the AWP is an option, let's see if more people get Premiums.
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Re: Subaru bucked the trend. [ateixeira]
by p0926
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Aug 06, 2008 (11:53 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 06, 2008 5:33 am)
furthermore they REALLY screwed up the model mix
I'll say! They neglected to offer the XT with a MT
Sorry I couldn't resist
-Frank
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Re: Subaru bucked the trend. [p0926]
by ateixeira
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Aug 06, 2008 (11:59 am)
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Replying to: p0926 (Aug 06, 2008 11:53 am)
It was low volume, but still, that was the halo model. It helped get it on the 5Best Trucks list in C&D for 3 years.
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JD Power not kind to Subaru
by kurtamaxxxguy
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Aug 07, 2008 (3:13 pm)
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For 2006 reliability, Subaru apparently came in below the industry Average - not bu much, but below average.
By comparison, VW was worse.
LandRover was much worse (and bottom rated - problems in every vehicle).
Toyota's Rav4 led the CUV segment.
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Re: JD Power not kind to Subaru [kurtamaxxxguy]
by p0926
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Aug 07, 2008 (3:25 pm)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Aug 07, 2008 3:13 pm)
JD Powers has always rated Subaru below avg. I think it's because they only take into account initial quality and totally ignore long-term reliability. So for instance, your door buzz would drag down Subaru's score but the a major component failure in 2-3 years wouldn't hurt the score at all I find Consumer Reports reliability scores far more useful.
-Frank
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Re: JD Power not kind to Subaru [p0926]
by ateixeira
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Aug 08, 2008 (8:59 am)
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Replying to: p0926 (Aug 07, 2008 3:25 pm)
I agree, and note that many brands that do well in the IQ study do not score well in their Durability study (and vice-versa).
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