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#17124 of 17133 Re: CR on Forester [ateixeira]
by dcm61
May 30, 2013 (2:49 pm)
No Premium 6MT any more?
Yes there is, but weird packaging.
Premium 6MT = Standard AWP, no Moonroof (not even an option).
Premium CVT = Optional AWP, standard Moonroof.
#17125 of 17133 Re: CR on Forester [dcm61]
by sgloon
May 30, 2013 (7:41 pm)
Yes it was the no moonroof on the premium 6MT that was stopping me in my tracks. As you mention, it was not even an option. The 2014 moonroof is a fair bit smaller than the one on my 2010.
I really don't want to buy an automatic. Yet, I really like the moonroof.
#17127 of 17133 Re: Did not know this... [rsholland]
by xwesx
Jun 07, 2013 (9:39 am)
Electronic parking brake; what gimmicky junk!
#17128 of 17133 Re: Did not know this... [xwesx]
by dcm61
Jun 07, 2013 (10:17 am)
That was just 1 of the numerous turnoffs that eliminated the Outback from my list of contenders.
#1 being the "full-figured" body.
#17129 of 17133 Re: Did not know this... [dcm61]
by rsholland
Jun 07, 2013 (10:38 am)
I've actually got a '13 Outback in my driveway right now. It's a dealer loaner as our Forester is in for the 7500-mile service.
The Outback is pretty nice, even though this one is a base model. Had a '12 loaner a couple of weeks ago while my WRX was being serviced, but this one seems nicer. Noticed the driver's seat seems to bettter bolstered than the '12 model. Also, this car is much quieter on the highway than my WRX. That's becoming more important to me. Must be getting old.
Bob
#17130 of 17133 Re: Did not know this... [rsholland]
by hondafriek
Jun 16, 2013 (4:34 pm)
That's a definite sign that you are getting older Bob
. I had a love hate relationship with our Protege 5. The thing handled well, cornered like it was on rails, but Geez was it noisy. I went the route of sound deadening, completely gutted the interior and covered all panels including the roof with B Quiet sound deadening then reinstalled everything.
It was a big job and frankly the end result was less than satisfactory, I just couldn't take the noise any more and much to Rita's chagrin I sold it. She loved it, but I am into quiet now and that is a big consideration in any car purchase I will make in future. I tried the regular Impreza before settling on the Mazda3 Gt hatch. The Impreza was noisier than I wanted.
Granted the Mazda3 is no Lexus in terms of quiet, but is streets ahead of the Protege5 that it replaced and way quieter than the Impreza.
Cheers Pat.
#17131 of 17133 Re: Did not know this... [hondafriek]
by jfl
Jun 16, 2013 (9:03 pm)
For me, the noise was often from the tires. If I were willing to settle for non-M+S rated tires, my cars would be much quieter.
It also seemed worse (louder) when sitting in the back seat of my Legacy. (So if I'm sitting in the back, I grab the iPod!)
My daughter just got a Mazda3 hatchback. I didn't notice the noise when I test drove it.
#17132 of 17133 Re: Did not know this... [jfl]
by rsholland
Jun 17, 2013 (7:18 am)
Was in my son David's BMW X1 yesterday. It is much quieter than our '13 Forester and my '09 WRX. I really appreciate that. Most cars today have decent power and handling, so I'm looking at other areas that enhance the driving/ownership experience.
I'm not wild about the X1's styling, but the more time I spend in David's car, the more I appreciate it. Like me, he's 5'9". I was sitting in the rear seat behind him, and I had plenty of legroom. It's considered a 5-seater, but I think sitting tree across in the rear would be uncomfortable for all. It's a great 4-seater, not so much as a 5-seater. Like other BMWs, and European cars in general, it had a very taut feeling about it.
Bob
#17133 of 17133 Re: Did not know this... [jfl]
by hondafriek
Jun 17, 2013 (2:18 pm)
(My daughter just got a Mazda3 hatchback. I didn't notice the noise when I test drove it.)
I didn't say the Mazda3 was noisy in fact I am totally happy with mine, I did say in terms of quietness it wasn't a Lexus.
Cheers Pat.