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#9554 of 16985 4000 lb Hyundai?
Apr 07, 2007 (8:35 am)
I can see it - they will just do the 80s GM version of luxury by adding things until the frame is straining to stay straight.
I want a light and fast car. It's silly how a new 3 series is heavier than a 96-02 Mercedes E-Class. It's only 100lbs lighter than this:
Something's just wrong if the smallest cars are now almost as heavy as a ten year old Park Avenue.
#9555 of 16985 Re: 4000 lb Hyundai? [plekto]
Apr 07, 2007 (11:20 am)
LOL, you do have a point. It's all the electronic nannies and safety equiment we are demanded to have.
#9556 of 16985 Re: 4000 lb Hyundai? [plekto]
Apr 07, 2007 (11:47 am)
OK, good point. However, the overweight car I drive can out maneuver every CURRENT US sled in this weight class. Bar NONE.
#9557 of 16985 Re: 4000 lb Hyundai? [circlew]
Apr 07, 2007 (12:08 pm)
OW, what do you drive again ? A Bimmer ?
#9558 of 16985 Re: 4000 lb Hyundai? [rockylee]
Apr 07, 2007 (12:22 pm)
330xi. Best performing car I've had yet (even with the DGC weights designed in!).
1966 Pontiac Lemans, 1968 Dodge Dart GT, 1969 Buick Skylark, 1976 Pontiac Grand Prix, 1988 Lincoln M7 LSC, 1997 Pontiac GP GTP, 2003 Lincoln LS
I am ALL-Americaned OUT!
#9559 of 16985 The Side-Impact Standards . . .
Apr 07, 2007 (1:00 pm)
may have quite a bit to do with this, along with any number of other nanny-state items. The old cars were light and were designed with the assumption that the driver would strap himself in & avoid all that he could. It's a YOYO (you're on your own) thing.
Otherwise, you die, and there's no one to sue.
That approach has been shown to be way, way out of date.
#9560 of 16985 Re: The Side-Impact Standards . . . [cdnpinhead]
Apr 07, 2007 (1:31 pm)
...and also due to the SUV-ramming factor for survival.
The 330 does quite well despite the added weight, IMO. I' read the same about the E92 also. I am sure this would improve with -200 lbs. but it is what it is.
I was in shock to see a Semi driver on the cell phone the other day negotiating a wide right turn onto the freeway with 16 wheels following his un-funfocused direction and thought about defensive driving can only get you so far...
#9561 of 16985 Re: 4000 lb Hyundai? [circlew]
Apr 08, 2007 (1:32 am)
Well don't be surprised if a few Genesis, drivers next year around this time are giving you a thumbs up signaling they want to race you around a sweeper.
#9562 of 16985 Re: 4000 lb Hyundai? [rockylee]
Apr 08, 2007 (3:55 am)
Why are we discussing a car that's at least a year away from production?
That's a waste of bandwidth. Let's confine the discussion to cars that are in showrooms today.
#9563 of 16985 More perspective on weight
Apr 08, 2007 (4:16 am)
All variations of the first 7-series (E23) which were made between 1977-86 weighed ~3250-3600 lbs. That's less than today's 335 sedan, and it is all I need to remind me of how radically things have changed.