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BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#7028 of 16984 Re: Okay [fedlawman]
Nov 30, 2006 (6:11 pm)
Cheers fedlawman ! From the website.** In fact, it was voted the "Best Luxury Car Interior" by both industry and automotive journalist voters.gee I guess Edmunds journalists need to change their tune*** doesn’t hold anything back in performance, either. It boasts a 263 hp V-6 engine and available Intelligent All-wheel drive system to deliver a smooth, powerful and exciting ride.
**Medium Premium Car class hmmm...Entry level Lux-Perf.sedan class maybe ??
***Ward's 2006 Auto Interiors Show hmm..are they a reputable source to judge car interiors-all those Mercedes fans feel slighted now, what was it the interior looks awful
"…the has one of the most beautiful cabins in its class, miles ahead of Cadillac and Mercedes."****The Detroit News, 2/8/06
fedlawman, Rocky, could anyone please post an interior and exterior image of the vs. the BMW 335i please ? How do you attach images to this forum ?
#7029 of 16984 Re: Okay [flash11]
Nov 30, 2006 (6:17 pm)
How do you post a picture of the 335 leaving these other cars in the dust? Seems to me the focus of this forum is on performance. BMW has the best drivers interior in the group, I love the simplicity of the dashboard. Simplicity does not mean cheap.
I'm not saying any car should be bought carte-blanche just because, but each car has it's strengths and weaknesses. Each buyer likes different things. I'm not big on "fancy" interiors like Lexus. I like spartan, functional, high quality and driver friendly. To me no car manufacturer does that better than BMW.
#7030 of 16984 Re: Okay [ggesq]
Nov 30, 2006 (6:46 pm)
"Years have marched on..."
Yes, 3 short years ago, the TSX and E46 325i were high on the list in this segment. Now they don't even blip the radar. The bar has been raised a lot in the last couple of years, and the base TL is not as competitive as it used to be (when this thread was in its infancy).
"All of the aforementioned combined make the base TL a "sporty" FWD sedan."
I agree, I think the TL absolutely belongs here. It is not the benchmark of this segment, but on a graph depicting the from "luxury" "sport" continuum, the TL is probably near the top of the bell curve (average) for the segment.
The point I was making is that, upon closer examination of the "DNA," I have decided that the base TL and FWD Lincoln MKZ have a lot more in common than first meets the eye - that, if one is to be excluded, then perhaps we should re-examine the other one more closely.
#7031 of 16984 Re: Okay [flash11]
Nov 30, 2006 (7:05 pm)
"it was voted the "Best Luxury Car Interior" by both industry and automotive journalist voters."
Calm down Flash. I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt for the time being - based on paper stats and photographs. We should reserve judgement until we actually sit in, touch, and drive it for ourselves. Only then will we know if it feels as good as it might look on paper.
Remember, American auto makers are notorious for their hideous interiors and cheap plastics. Most "premium luxury" American cars pale in material and build quality when parked next to a Honda Accord.
I don't like it personally, but hey, whatever floats your boat. Here, I think this American car has a much nicer looking interior:
Looks pretty nice, huh? Unfortunately, on paper only. In person, it's just a $20,000 Saturn - and you know it as soon as you actually sit in it.
#7032 of 16984 Re: whoaaaoo I want that color interior [rjorge3]
Nov 30, 2006 (7:33 pm)
That picture came from the Japanese Nissan website. They offer that color for the Skyline 350GT, which is our G35.
I am not sure if it will ever be offered here because Infiniti has that color for the US Market M35/M45 & FX35/FX45 and it doesn't sell very well.
But, I hope they offer it...
They also did a better job on the interior lighting for the G35. No more orange, and they added LED ambient lighting.
#7033 of 16984 lexus sport sedan
Nov 30, 2006 (7:34 pm)
the last and only sport sedan Lexus ever made was the 1st generation IS. It had great steering feel, tight handling, a taut suspension, RWD, LSD, a nice I6 engine, great looking 5 spoke 17" wheels, and an outside the box gauge cluster (which I happened to like).
People complained it was slow. In addition to being relatively slow, it got terrible gas mileage. People complained the ride was too stiff and jarring (that's how I like it). People complained the interior was too cramped.
So lexus stuffed a 300+ hp v6 under the hood of a softly sprung chassis. they just took all the fun out of the car.
#7034 of 16984 Re: Okay [fedlawman]
Nov 30, 2006 (7:36 pm)
While the MKZ interior materials may be top notch, the design, to me screams, "K Car!" I could not live with that interior. While I prefer wood to aluminum, I do not like the lighter woods in any car. YMMV, of course.
And yes, in the picture, the styling of the Aura makes the MKZ look all the more unacceptable.
#7035 of 16984 Re: Some points here... [qbrozen]
Nov 30, 2006 (8:08 pm)
Sorry - I disagree. The X-Type may have upset the Jag purists, but, more X's have been sold than any other Jag model to date. Sales may have fell well short of Ford's unrealistic projections, but, about 400K of them went out the door so far. Those of us who own one love 'em.
#7036 of 16984 Re: Okay [fedlawman]
Nov 30, 2006 (8:16 pm)
Thanks fedlawman but you compared it to a Saturn. I asked to compare it to the BMW, are you afraid we will see the truth ? C'mon show us the interior of the BMW also, side by side. The exterior of the MKZ is gorgeous, K car please...I will get a posting of the MKZ against the BMW in the Current and Future performance sedans forum created by Rocky. I wont have to put up with this hypocrisy there.
#7037 of 16984 Re: Okay [fedlawman]
Nov 30, 2006 (8:20 pm)
I love that interior in the MKZ, it looks great with the exterior in Black pearlcoat and chrome rims.