Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

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What is this discussion about? BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan

#6819 of 16087 Slow? by plekto

Nov 28, 2006 (5:39 pm)

1987 Porsche 928 S4 5.5
1992 Porsche 968 5.9
2001 Porsche Boxster S 5.6
1994 Toyota Supra Turbo 5.3
2004 Mazda RX-8 5.8
1982 Lamborghini Countach S 5.7
2000 Jaguar XKR 5.6
2006 Honda S2000 5.5
1986 Ferrari Testarossa 5.3
1970 Ferrari 330 GTS 6.9
1990 Chevrolet Corvette 5.7
1990 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z 5.8
1987 Buick Regal GNX 4.7(just to prove old doesn't mean slow)
1995 BMW M3 6.2
1998 BMW M3 Sedan 5.5
1999 Aston Martin DB7 5.7
1993 Acura NSX 5.6
 
2006 Volvo S60R 5.7
As fast as a Countach S, a DB7, and a 1990 Corvette?
 
But it's not a "sports sedan". Lol.

#6820 of 16087 Re: Slow? [plekto] by kdshapiro

Nov 28, 2006 (5:42 pm)

Replying to: plekto (Nov 28, 2006 5:39 pm)
You're not getting the point. Going to 60 and being able to work these cars around curves are two different things. The Volvo would be in a tailspin. It's interesting with the exception of one car or so these cars are old and the testing methodology for each car was completely different. So I call phooey on your whole post, because it doesn't mean anything.
 
Compared to the 335 the S60 is a pig. I wouldn't want to the QNX around curves either, you would end up in the morgue.

#6821 of 16087 Topic by pat

Nov 28, 2006 (5:55 pm)

We're talking about, well, entry level performance sedans (we can tell that by looking at the top of the page -- where we can also see the list of vehicles that make up our main focus). Let's please keep that in mind.
 
If I'm not mistaken, none of the vehicles in the last two posts are in this class.

#6822 of 16087 Re: Topic [pat] by kdshapiro

Nov 28, 2006 (6:00 pm)

Replying to: pat (Nov 28, 2006 5:55 pm)
I was looking also and I think I would have to agree with you.

#6823 of 16087 Re: Slow? [kdshapiro] by fedlawman

Nov 28, 2006 (6:27 pm)

Replying to: kdshapiro (Nov 28, 2006 5:42 pm)
"Compared to the 335 the S60 is a pig."
 
KD, I think you're exaggerating a little. The S60R may not possess the steering feel or dynamics of a BMW, but then again, what car does?
 
The S60R is a fast, well-mannered, capable, and sporty near-lux sedan. It's blend of comfort, performance, and unique style deserves a look from any enthusiast shopping this segment - especially at $32,000.

#6824 of 16087 Re: Slow? [fedlawman] by blueguydotcom

Nov 28, 2006 (6:42 pm)

Replying to: fedlawman (Nov 28, 2006 6:27 pm)
Gotta admit at 32k it's a screaming deal. Of course, given that my experience with volvo is even worse than VW/BMW, there's no way in hades I'd consider one.
 
If only Mazda made a fast RWD sedan. Sigh...

#6825 of 16087 blueguy by dhamilton

Nov 28, 2006 (7:00 pm)

Aren't you getting a four door GTI with DSG?

#6826 of 16087 Re: Slow? [fedlawman] by kdshapiro

Nov 28, 2006 (7:17 pm)

Replying to: fedlawman (Nov 28, 2006 6:27 pm)
I'd get a G35 before one of those things. It's only a screaming bargain if you like the car. Sorry, unique style to some is ugly to another.

#6827 of 16087 Re: Slow? [kdshapiro] by blueguydotcom

Nov 28, 2006 (7:40 pm)

Replying to: kdshapiro (Nov 28, 2006 7:17 pm)
Having driven a 2007 G35 - I won't go near one until they redesign the car again. The interior is way too tight for a little guy like me to be comfortable. I can't fathom how that car is getting positive press when the driving position is so squished.

#6828 of 16087 Re: blueguy [dhamilton] by blueguydotcom

Nov 28, 2006 (7:42 pm)

Replying to: dhamilton (Nov 28, 2006 7:00 pm)
My sister said she'd give me an answer on taking my 330i in December. If she'll take the 330i off my hands, I'll drive the Mazdaspeed3, MX-5 hardtop and GTI again. The GTI is the front runner given its fun, utility, luxury touches, gas mileage, etc.
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