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Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

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#6467 of 16087 Re: Car Show [habitat1] by merc1

Oct 17, 2006 (10:45 pm)

Replying to: habitat1 (Oct 16, 2006 5:50 am)
So would you recommend the new E320 Bluetec?
 
Yes I would. The E has supposedly been gutted for 07 and should prove to be more reliable, but sadly the reality of buying a Mercedes is that reliabilty isn't a given anymore. That said........
 
My marketing director has a 2005 E320 CDI which she likes, but it has had more problems in two years than her former E300 Turbodiesel had in four years.
 
The main things I've seen about these is that people are getting "bad gas" according to service advisors. Last week while getting a service I was talking with a E320 CDI owner and she said the service adviser told her which stations to avoid. Despite this she said she would be getting a ML320 CDI.
 
M

#6468 of 16087 Re: Entry Lux Performance Sedan Interiors [louiswei] by merc1

Oct 17, 2006 (10:50 pm)

Replying to: louiswei (Oct 17, 2006 6:48 am)
I like the BMW, Lexus, Infiniti, Acura, Audi, Mercedes and Cadillac in that order.
 
M

#6469 of 16087 Re: Entry Lux Performance Sedan Interiors [rockylee] by blueguydotcom

Oct 18, 2006 (12:18 am)

Replying to: rockylee (Oct 17, 2006 10:06 pm)
BMW, interiors lack a artistic design. Yuk !!!!
 
Artistic design?
 
"Art is useless, so is a flower." - Oscar Wilde
 
I know car manus spend millions on exterior design and interior layouts. Yet not a single car in this class is even remotely attractive on the outside. As far as interior's the e46 had the best interior of all of them by a longshot. Now that it's gone we're stuck with the current faux pas that pass as interiors. Not a single one of the interiors shown above is driver-centric enough. They play to the rest of the car's passengers. The e46 with it's tighter design, titled-toward-the-driver dash, low beltline (god how I love riding in friends and family member's e46s) and controls right-at-hand epitomizes what these interiors should be.
 
Visually, I couldn't care less - as long as there is no wood anywhere. I just want everything of importance - gauges, controls, HVAC, stereo pointed at me. The passengers can look out the window. Function over form - the driver is king of the domain, so therefore all functions should be aimed at pleasing the driver.

#6470 of 16087 Re: Entry Lux Performance Sedan Interiors [blueguydotcom] by im_spartacus

Oct 18, 2006 (7:37 am)

Replying to: blueguydotcom (Oct 18, 2006 12:18 am)
""Art is useless, so is a flower." - Oscar Wilde
 
Well said Mr. Wilde.
 
"Yet not a single car in this class is even remotely attractive on the outside. "
"Visually, I couldn't care less - as long as there is no wood anywhere. "
 
I don't think Mr. Wilde was following you when he made that statement.

#6471 of 16087 Re: Entry Lux Performance Sedan Interiors [im_spartacus] by rockylee

Oct 18, 2006 (8:14 am)

Replying to: im_spartacus (Oct 18, 2006 7:37 am)
I don't think Mr. Wilde was following you when he made that statement.
 
LOL
 
I agree "blue" that the E46 had a artistic interior, then the school of the blinde had shop class and started designing current BMW designs.
 
Rocky

#6472 of 16087 Re: Entry Lux Performance Sedan Interiors [im_spartacus] by blueguydotcom

Oct 18, 2006 (8:55 am)

Replying to: im_spartacus (Oct 18, 2006 7:37 am)
Spartacus, the point I made by saying:
 
Yet not a single car in this class is even remotely attractive on the outside.
 
I still bought one of these cars, even though visually it's ugly. It reminds me of a melted Buick. Like all the cars in this class the e90 is just plain dowdy, slab sided and not the least bit interesting. Ditto the TL, C, IS, CTS, G35, etc. Even if a car is nice to look at, the would in no fashion influence my purchase. The interior needs to have zero wood and be driver oriented. Beyond that, I couldn't care much less if there's a navigation screen or a digital readout like KITT's. Just make it functional and lacking anything that is or appears to be wood-like. Wood belongs on furniture, not a piece of machinery.

#6473 of 16087 Re: Entry Lux Performance Sedan Interiors [blueguydotcom] by rockylee

Oct 18, 2006 (9:22 am)

Replying to: blueguydotcom (Oct 18, 2006 8:55 am)
Good quality wood can belong inside a car. It add class IMHO. However the new "metals" we see inside cars today also do the same. i.e. brushed aluminum.
 
Rocky

#6474 of 16087 Re: Entry Lux Performance Sedan Interiors [blueguydotcom] by laurasdada

Oct 18, 2006 (9:31 am)

Replying to: blueguydotcom (Oct 18, 2006 12:18 am)
"the driver is king of the domain..."
 
You must not be married...!
 
And I have to disagree, I find the TL (that I own) to be a very handsome vehicle from almost any angle. The first Acura since the original Legend Coupe with any kind of style, imho. The NSX, while apparently a wonderful car, didn't do anything for me style-wise.
 
In this group, to me the only car that is severly challenged style-wise is the CTS. YMMV

#6475 of 16087 Re: Entry Lux Performance Sedan Interiors [rockylee] by kdshapiro

Oct 18, 2006 (9:36 am)

Replying to: rockylee (Oct 17, 2006 10:06 pm)
"Well these are my opinions and unfortunately I can't help the blinde. "
 
I may be blind, but until you give me the money and tell me what car to buy, this is my opinion and I am sticking to it.

#6476 of 16087 Re: Entry Lux Performance Sedan Interiors [kdshapiro] by rockylee

Oct 18, 2006 (9:43 am)

Replying to: kdshapiro (Oct 18, 2006 9:36 am)
I may be blind, but until you give me the money and tell me what car to buy, this is my opinion and I am sticking to it.
 
ROTFLMAO, yes you have that right. As far as the money part, I wished I could help you out. It would perhaps make you able to see a lil' more clearly.
 
Rocky

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