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#6304 of 16091 Re: Only one question for this thread.... [rockylee] by edwardsf

Oct 05, 2006 (12:42 pm)

Replying to: rockylee (Oct 03, 2006 10:21 pm)
The following is from fueleconomy.gov. Most drivers here and the auto mags get about 20% worse MPG across the board. This compares the 2006 6 cylinder manuals.
BMW 330ci 20/30 Avg. 24
Cadillac CTS 17/26 Avg. 19
          
 
17 in the city is pretty bad but not too much worse than the G35, C320 and A4 6. Also, the Cadillac is a nasty polluter both in terms of climate change forming pollutants. (Their 8 cylinder engines are much worse of course). GM has been a laggard in efficient fuel saving technology for all but its cheap bottom of the line cars. BMW and Acura are pretty unusual in giving such great 6 cylinder MPG in fast cars.
 
BMW 3 series seem to have two problems. One is reliability, although many 3 series years are average. The only real problem then, is the stigma from the apparent truth that a lot of jerks drive these cars. (Although Expedition and Land Rover drivers seem to top them). Too bad as BMWs are great handling, efficient, fast, good looking cars.

#6305 of 16091 Re: GM thinks Buick belongs here, too. [louiswei] by ggesq

Oct 05, 2006 (12:48 pm)

Replying to: louiswei (Oct 05, 2006 11:31 am)
"Maybe the next one up is the Impala SS since it has enough HP to compete with cars in this segment anyway... "
 
Uh oh----priggly should be joining us soon

#6306 of 16091 Re: Only one question for this thread.... [edwardsf] by kdshapiro

Oct 05, 2006 (2:21 pm)

Replying to: edwardsf (Oct 05, 2006 12:42 pm)
"The only real problem then.."
 
Those aren't problems, they are preconceived notions. I find Lexus LS and Hummer drivers to be worse than BMW drivers. But we probably shouldn't go there. :sick

#6307 of 16091 Need AWD lease: a4 2.0 or 328xi by jsavaitch

Oct 05, 2006 (7:07 pm)

Curious on suggestions: I've got just over $500 to spend on a lease and I'd like to get somethng fully loaded (incl. NAV).
 
A42.0 or 328xi?

#6308 of 16091 TECHNOLOGY: 2007 BMW 335 vs 2007 G35 by navboy

Oct 05, 2006 (7:37 pm)

The 2007 G35 will have a hard-drive based navigation system with robust voice recognition, optional navtraffic, and lane-guidance which shows you which exact lane to be in on freeway interchanges and exits. It has an audio system which features a Burr-Brown converter, a hard disc drive which stores 150 hours of music, and a flash-memory card reader. One can control the radio (and the air system) with voice commands. The G35 also has a backup camera with superimposed guidance lines, which can predict the automobile's path. The dashboard technology in the 2007 G35 is more advanced than that in the M45.
 
The 2007 BMW 335 has an i-drive based navigation sytem, limited voice recognition, and a trunk-mounted 6-disc CD changer.
 
From the perspective of a discerning professional who appreciates advanced technology, I think the G35 makes the 335 look like doo.

#6309 of 16091 Re: TECHNOLOGY: 2007 BMW 335 vs 2007 G35 [navboy] by kdshapiro

Oct 05, 2006 (7:45 pm)

Replying to: navboy (Oct 05, 2006 7:37 pm)
"From the perspective of a discerning professional who appreciates advanced technology, I think the G35 makes the 335 look like doo."
 
For a navigation system, I use my phone, VZNAV. As far as BMW technology it's in the car, engine, chassis and suspension. I for one, (and I guess other people who buy BMW), would rather listen to the sound of the engine, than talk to the car.
 
So one could come to the same conclusion as you... from the perspective of a discerning professional who appreciates advanced technology where it counts, I think the 335 makes the G35 look like.....

#6310 of 16091 Ride Quality by navboy

Oct 05, 2006 (7:55 pm)

I am looking for a vehicle with a smooth, quiet ride - a ride in which every lump and dip in the pavement is not translated into jouncing under one's behind. In comparing the Infiniti G35 and the base BMW 335, which do you feel has the smoothest ride? Are there an lux import cars (other than lexus) which have a smoother ride?
 
By smooth ride, I mean less rigid and stiff; less likely to produce hammering and jolting while driving over uneven pavement.

#6311 of 16091 Re: Ride Quality [navboy] by dhamilton

Oct 05, 2006 (8:15 pm)

Replying to: navboy (Oct 05, 2006 7:55 pm)
mercedes, acura tl

#6312 of 16091 Re: I side with Allargon [blueguydotcom] by nyccarguy

Oct 05, 2006 (9:22 pm)

Replying to: blueguydotcom (Oct 04, 2006 10:41 pm)
"I don't personally know any BMW owners who would call their cars reliable or well-made."
 
My Dad has an '04 X5 3.0iA SP with about 56,000 miles on it. It has never once gone in for service besides the 3 times for scheduled maintenance. The last time he brought it in, they fixed the rear hatch that popped open a few times & replaced the head unit because the 1st 2 buttons started to wear down.
 
My Mom has an '05 530iA with a little over 30K miles on it That has needed nothing but scheduled maintenance so far. I've actually considered buying the car when the lease is up next December. But the idea of owning an iDrive equipped BMW out of warranty scares me.

#6313 of 16091 Re: TECHNOLOGY: 2007 BMW 335 vs 2007 G35 [navboy] by blueguydotcom

Oct 06, 2006 (12:21 am)

Replying to: navboy (Oct 05, 2006 7:37 pm)
Uh, some of us wouldn't get the navi, back up camera or a trunk-mounted/dash mounted hard drive. No thanks. i have an ipod. That's all I need.

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