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#5804 of 16251 Re: dave [maxidrive] by habitat1

Aug 14, 2006 (5:43 am)

Replying to: maxidrive (Aug 11, 2006 6:53 am)
To all stick fans: My old Dodge Caravan was a manual, so I could it a sport vehicle, right?
 
That's nothing, our 1996 Isuzu Trooper was a 5-speed manual. And believe me, there was no "S" in driving that SUV, assuming you wanted to stay upright. But it could and did get out of snow that left slushbox Grand Cherokees stuck. With my wife at the wheel, no less.
 
In my opinion, you can have a stick without sport, but you can't have (serious) sport without a stick. And that opinion does take into acount the best that Audi, Porsche, AMG, BMW-M and even Ferrari currently have to offer in SMG's and DSG's.

#5805 of 16251 Re: dave [habitat1] by merc1

Aug 14, 2006 (10:21 pm)

Replying to: habitat1 (Aug 14, 2006 5:43 am)
In my opinion, you can have a stick without sport, but you can't have (serious) sport without a stick. And that opinion does take into acount the best that Audi, Porsche, AMG, BMW-M and even Ferrari currently have to offer in SMG's and DSG's.
 
 
 
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#5806 of 16251 Re: dave [habitat1] by louiswei

Aug 15, 2006 (4:48 am)

Replying to: habitat1 (Aug 14, 2006 5:43 am)
Well, IMO I think the only people qualified to say that driving a SMG/DSG Porsche, AMG, M and (especially) Ferrari isn't serious sport are:
 
1. Race car drivers
2. Fighter pilots
3. Astronauts
 
I wonder which group does habitat1 belong to?

#5807 of 16251 Re: dave [louiswei] by kdshapiro

Aug 15, 2006 (5:04 am)

Replying to: louiswei (Aug 15, 2006 4:48 am)
I wonder which group does habitat1 belong to?
 
BTW I disagree totally with your list. Anyone can have an option and habitat1 has his. When is the last time you saw an astronaut risking his life on the track?
 
Here is my list:
 
a. Anyone with an opinion.

#5808 of 16251 Re: dave [louiswei] by merc1

Aug 15, 2006 (5:09 am)

Replying to: louiswei (Aug 15, 2006 4:48 am)
Well Habitat1 and I have had this conversation before, but he drives a 911 ( ) so his preference for honest to goodess manuals is understandable.

#5809 of 16251 Re: dave [kdshapiro] by louiswei

Aug 15, 2006 (5:12 am)

Replying to: kdshapiro (Aug 15, 2006 5:04 am)
Just like you said...Those are IMO.

#5810 of 16251 Re: dave [louiswei] by mz6greyghost

Aug 15, 2006 (5:12 am)

Replying to: louiswei (Aug 15, 2006 4:48 am)
Well, I think the only people qualified to say that driving a SMG/DSG Porsche, AMG, M and (especially) Ferrari isn't serious sport are:
  
1. Race car drivers
2. Fighter pilots
3. Astronauts
 
No. It's called an opinion, which was allowed on this board by ANYONE the last time I checked. I personally would rather drive a Porsche or Ferrari with a true manual than a SMG/DSG.

#5811 of 16251 Re: dave [kdshapiro] by poodog13

Aug 15, 2006 (5:47 am)

Replying to: kdshapiro (Aug 15, 2006 5:04 am)
I wonder which group does habitat1 belong to?
  
BTW I disagree totally with your list. Anyone can have an option and habitat1 has his. When is the last time you saw an astronaut risking his life on the track?
  
Here is my list:
  
a. Anyone with an opinion.
 
Hence the difference between an opinion and an educated opinion.

#5812 of 16251 Re: dave [poodog13] by kdshapiro

Aug 15, 2006 (6:22 am)

Replying to: poodog13 (Aug 15, 2006 5:47 am)
That's true. But these car manufacturers welcome all comers. Those with opinions and those with educated opinions. In some instances opinions=educated opinions. Since habitat1 drives a 911 I consider his to be an educated opinion.
 
Since louiswei does not....sorry couldn't resist.
 
Of course, we could now get into the murky area of what is an educated opinion and by whose say so.

#5813 of 16251 Re: dave [kdshapiro] by louiswei

Aug 15, 2006 (6:27 am)

Replying to: kdshapiro (Aug 15, 2006 6:22 am)
I just failed to see the relationship between driving a 911 or not and an opinion or eduated opinion.

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