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#5136 of 16087 Re: leaning toward TSX or IS 250....or G35 [bdr127] by shipo

Jan 17, 2006 (8:52 am)

Replying to: bdr127 (Jan 17, 2006 8:26 am)
"If they really want to steal the car, then BMW's system is extremely effective in preventing that."
 
Absolutely correct. To help further illustrate this point, back in 1999 when I moved from a 1995 Passat GLX to a much more expensive 1999 328i my car insurance went down! "Not that I'm complaining mind you," I told my insurance agent, "but why?"
 
"Because our experience with BMWs is that they are very hard to steal and as such, we have very few payouts for that type of loss."
 
Thinking about this another way, I've been active on the 3-Series and 5-Series discussions since mid-1998 and in that entire time I can only remember one car that was reported to have been stolen. Apparently it was picked up and put on a flat-bed or into a trailer, and this was a car with the alarm system installed. In the end, if a professional thief wants your car, he/she will get it and no alarm/Lojack/OnStar system will prevent its loss. Period, full stop, the end.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo

#5137 of 16087 Re: leaning toward TSX or IS 250....or G35 [shipo] by pat

Jan 17, 2006 (9:00 am)

Replying to: shipo (Jan 17, 2006 8:52 am)
If I'm remembering the same incident you are, I believe the owner eventually decided that someone at the dealership had illegally gotten a key and either stole the vehicle himself or passed the key on the person who did. Not much a "security system" can do about that.

#5138 of 16087 Re: leaning toward TSX or IS 250....or G35 [pat] by shipo

Jan 17, 2006 (10:13 am)

Replying to: pat (Jan 17, 2006 9:00 am)
Ah yes, you did indeed jog my memory. There was speculation about flat bedding the car when it was first stolen, but you're right, in the end it was determined to be the key situation you described.
 
I was confusing that scenario with one the my kid brother had at about the same time where his Yukon (complete with OnStar) got nicked. The Toronto police told him that it was most likely already on a boat and headed for Russia, securely inside the same shielded (as in impervious to Lojack and OnStar signals) container box that it was stuffed into right out of the hotel parking lot. Funny thing about that one, the car was recovered a year later in Indiana. Hmmm, last time I checked, Indiana was a LONG way from Moscow.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo

#5139 of 16087 Re: leaning toward TSX or IS 250....or G35 [sosk] by venture

Jan 17, 2006 (10:10 pm)

Replying to: sosk (Jan 16, 2006 3:17 pm)
"...for just everyday driving to work & back (7 miles down 1 street), I really would like more interior niceties than BMW offers in the 3-series."
 
I was just going to let that pass, but it's been bugging me.
 
For a 7 mile drive on the same street I don't think I'd be real concerned about niceities. After all, how long does it take - 10 minutes?
 
One thing about a BMW, especially the 3 series, is the way the interior is put together doesn't actually become obvious until you live with the car a while. Then you start to appreciate the way everything is at hand and is where it should be - the way everything is designed as a "package" and not parts just thrown together makes ownership appreciate as you drive it.
 
A BMW is for driving anyway, not for looking at.

#5140 of 16087 Re: leaning toward TSX or IS 250....or G35 [venture] by blueguydotcom

Jan 17, 2006 (10:31 pm)

Replying to: venture (Jan 17, 2006 10:10 pm)
Amen. I can be driving 500 miles or 5 blocks and I eagerly look forward to that drive. A 7 mile drive = 7 miles of fun.
 
He obviously looks at cars differently. I hope one day I never view my car as just transportation. Life's too short.

#5141 of 16087 Re: leaning toward TSX or IS 250....or G35 [venture] by laurasdada

Jan 18, 2006 (10:38 am)

Replying to: venture (Jan 17, 2006 10:10 pm)
"A BMW is for driving anyway, not for looking at."
 
A concise explanation of BMWs current design philosophy!

#5142 of 16087 blueguydotcom by nyccarguy

Jan 18, 2006 (8:25 pm)

not interested in either car (at anytime). I was just curious about what you thought. I respect your opinion...that's all.
 
How'd you like that 130i reviewed in ROUNDEL? Pretty sweet!

#5143 of 16087 Re: leaning toward TSX or IS 250....or G35 [venture] by 03accordman

Jan 19, 2006 (12:16 pm)

Replying to: venture (Jan 17, 2006 10:10 pm)
"A BMW is for driving anyway, not for looking at"
 
What say iDrive?

#5144 of 16087 Re: leaning toward TSX or IS 250....or G35 [03accordman] by kdshapiro

Jan 19, 2006 (1:15 pm)

Replying to: 03accordman (Jan 19, 2006 12:16 pm)
"What say iDrive?"
 
I drive, you drive, we all drive.

#5145 of 16087 Re: leaning toward TSX or IS 250....or G35 [03accordman] by blueguydotcom

Jan 19, 2006 (2:38 pm)

Replying to: 03accordman (Jan 19, 2006 12:16 pm)
iDrive is an option and furthermore it's easy to use. Sorry but every complaint about iDrive reminds me of the people who complain about Tivo or Meesenger or any other product that will take a person 1-2 minutes to understand on a surface level.

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