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BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#4682 of 16984 Re: MB versus BMW [lehrer1]
Oct 12, 2005 (7:47 am)
"By the way it was funny to see the parking lots at MB: one can see a sea of cars, all MB."
I used to work for MB-USA in the mid to late 1990s, and for a while I was helping out on a project in Stuttgart. Due to the fact that I was a consultant I was not allowed to drive a company car "for insurance reasons", so they rented me a BMW instead. Every morning as I pulled into the parking lot I got a serious "Hairy Eyeball" from the other folks.
#4683 of 16984 Re: so cal and you're worried about heat? [aaargh]
Oct 12, 2005 (7:44 pm)
Thanks, guys for the input.
I posed this heat question to some of the engineers at work and one of them told me to take two thermometers to the Acura dealership at 2pm and quickly throw them into the two candidate's passenger seats and let them bake in the closed cars for 20 minutes. Then, open the driver's door of each car and observe the readings as they come down over the next 5-10 minutes. This may be more telling than what I could tell from a subjective "seat-of-the-pants" test.
Not bad advice - I actually may do it!
My concern now (after all this research) is that even after using the techniques to cool the car prior to entering, the Ebony leather will retain heat longer than the Quartz (grey), especially being trapped against my back side while the car is trying to cool on a hot summer day....
Even though the Ebony is beautiful, the day in and day out hassle of the extra heat may drive me nuts after awhile, and the beauty may turn out to really be only skin deep....
Thanks, blue, player, and aaargh for your comments - Anthracite is starting to look cooler by the minute.....
#4685 of 16984 Re: 2006 TL 6MT w/ WDP and Ebony interior [jiminthehills]
Oct 12, 2005 (10:14 pm)
I have a suggestion that might give you the best of both worlds.
Tint your windows. I HIGHLY recommend Llumar brand. I have used Llumar for over 20 years and it is excellent. I have never had any problems with hazing or bubbling. Their top tier tint comes with a lifetime warranty.
Choose the top of the line Llumar product and I'm sure you will be pleased. Be sure to choose a "metalized" tint. They have tints now that block virtually all UV rays and have high degrees of heat rejection. You don't even have to get a really dark tint to do the job.
I always use about the second lightest tint and have very good results.
I am a big believer in white cars. I live in the Great state of Texas and you know we have tons of HOT sun! I don't have empirical evidence, but in my experience I have found that even light colored cars absorb significantly more heat than white cars do. Plus, I admit I really like the brightness and cleanness of white. Even though it seems counterintuitive, white actually hides dirt better than any other color.
High quality tinting also protects and preserves your interior.
If you have tinting on your windows and use a reflective sunshade in your windshield, I'll bet the black interior won't be too bad. btw - leather adjusts temperature much faster and better than vinyl.
my .02, fwiw
also, btw - don't get the tint done by your dealer. They'll charge you at least twice as much. Find a good Llumar dealer and let them do the installation. That's what your dealer would do and then double the price to you.
#4686 of 16984 Re: 2006 TL 6MT w/ WDP and Ebony interior [tturedraider]
Oct 13, 2005 (2:07 am)
Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't a "metalized" tint make it more difficult for the Navi (assuming you have one) to function properly?
#4687 of 16984 Re: metalized tint v navi [ggesq]
Oct 14, 2005 (11:18 am)
I don't really think so. Most navi systems now have an antenna on the roof.
Though, if your only radio antenna is in the back glass, I think it can adversely affect reception.
#4688 of 16984 Re: metalized tint v navi [tturedraider]
Oct 14, 2005 (2:03 pm)
Thanks for the email. Makes sense in regards to the Navi. However, just a quick FYI, Acura actually recommends not tinting the windows on the TL.
#4689 of 16984 Re: metalized tint v navi [ggesq]
Oct 14, 2005 (10:15 pm)
why does acura not recommend tinting?
#4690 of 16984 To tint or not to tint....that is the question....
Oct 14, 2005 (10:47 pm)
sorry....kinda corny, I know.
Acura would have to give me an exceptionally good reason not to tint. I have tinted all my cars since 1982 and never had any problems.
I know lots of the car makers are using so called "green" glass, but, imo, it doesn't do the job. Personally, I think high quality tint looks nice. But, without question, it significantly (even dramatically) reduces heat intrusion.
#4691 of 16984 NAV and tinting
Oct 15, 2005 (4:30 am)
On the G35 the Navi also has no external antenna. Tinting may effect reception for the GPS.