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What is this discussion about? BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G35, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Lexus IS 250, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan

#5 of 11073 G35 all the way by blueguydotcom Mar 25, 2002 (9:02 am)
Great handling, RWD, excellent engine and the best warranty around. Easy winner.
#6 of 11073 BG by hungrywhale Mar 25, 2002 (3:04 pm)
And no manual tranny. That may not matter to you, but it most certainly does matter to me and many other enthusiast drivers.   So IMO, it's not even on the board, let alone the 'easy winner'.
#7 of 11073 Choices by riez Mar 25, 2002 (4:44 pm)
One beauty of BMW 3 Series is that there are so many models to choose from. Almost half of all buyers in America don't get the basic RWD 4 door sedan. Besides having 3 engine and 3 transmission choices, you can get coupe, convertible, AWD, station wagon, and super-high performance M-Series!!!   hungrywhale... I concur that having the availability of a manual transmission across the line is absolutely critical!!!
#8 of 11073 manual coming by blueguydotcom Mar 26, 2002 (12:20 pm)
good grief, so you wait 9 months for the manual. Even with an auto, I prefer to every car listed and I NEVER have owned an auto and never thought I'd enjoy driving a car with an auto. That's what value, performance and an exceptional engine can do for a car. Once the G has a stick there is not another sedan under the M3 that I'd consider.
#9 of 11073 BG by hungrywhale Mar 26, 2002 (1:02 pm)
I'll give it a fair shot when the manual comes out, but I'm just flat-out not interested in an auto. I don't care how fast it is. It's not about the speed, it's about the driving experience and having more control over the car.
#10 of 11073 hungry by blueguydotcom Mar 26, 2002 (1:45 pm)
I understand it's not about the speed. I really don't care if the car won't do over 100 as I rarely break the century mark. What I do care about is power and with the manual mode on the auto, I can get it when I want it. Will I buy an auto-equipped G? In all likelihood, no. I desperately want to drive the 6 speed.
#11 of 11073 Well, then by hungrywhale Mar 26, 2002 (4:00 pm)
It sounds like you know why I won't even put it on my list (let alone at the top) until the manual comes out.
#12 of 11073 Manual by riez Mar 26, 2002 (6:00 pm)
Is there such a thing as an automatic-only true performance sedan? Not in my book. Certainly not in Europe or Asia. Only in America is such an oxymoron possible. Sad.   If or when the manual G35 comes out and the coupe version, then the G35 will be interesting enough to be a serious contender in this segment.
#13 of 11073 by wishnhigh1 Mar 26, 2002 (6:55 pm)
If I had to rank the entry lux performance sedans, here is what I would choose:   Audi A4 3.0(lots of bang for the buck, loads of style and loads of luxury)   Cadillac CTS( Decent BTFB, good handling, non-lemming style)   Infinity G35(Tons of BFTB, good luxury, but completely boring exterior and even more boring of an interior)   BMW 325(very little BFTB, excellent handling/build quality/resale, classy looking but too conservative for me)   SAAB Viggen(almost zero BFTB, spotty build quality, but the damn coolest style in the world).   Everything else is not worth my time
#14 of 11073 Riez by shipo Mar 26, 2002 (9:06 pm)
Hey my friend, dig this, in Australia, the ONLY 5-Series that can be had with a manual gearbox is the M5! Yeah, right, not the 525i, 530i, 535i or the 540i, they are all automatic only.   Best Regards, Shipo

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