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What is this discussion about? BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G35, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Lexus IS 250, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan

#21 of 11073 Wish by dave330i Mar 27, 2002 (12:46 pm)
"I would buy the IS as a Toyota but not a Lexus"   How else are they going to get that extra $5k from you then?   Reasonably equipped G35 goes for $33k or so.
#22 of 11073 Amen, Pastor Hungrywhale by riez Mar 27, 2002 (1:10 pm)
I couldn't have said it better myself. I'll let you lead services!   mbarto... I most certainly will test a G35 manual if and when it finally comes out. I promise!!! Automatics make nice luxury sedans and maybe even sporty luxury sedans. But NOT performance sedans or luxury performance sedans. (I don't even consider the 540iA Sport truly worthy, though it is as close as one can get in an automatic. If I could just get my wife to drive a manual....)
#23 of 11073 Riez - G35 test drive ... by mbarto Mar 27, 2002 (11:43 pm)
Thanks Riez! Let me know when you do. I'm sure you'll get a chance before I will since I won't return until December. I am curious of how it compares to the BMW's. YOU can speak from experience, so I'll value your opinion.   It does make a difference being married. (LOL! see the latest discussions on the Infiniti G35 vs BMW 330i board). First, I'm fortunate to have a wife that can drive a manual. Not that she prefers that, her first choice is an automatic. But she appreciates the hard work and sacrifice I'm doing out here, and knows that this car is for me first, family second. Of course, it helps my cause when I let her buy a new dining room set last month, and new living room drapes this month. Bribes do help! Whatever I finally decide, I'm sure she'll be happy.
#24 of 11073 Secret to a Sucessful... by riez Mar 28, 2002 (4:07 pm)
mbarto... As regards the "bribes" issue, you've figured out one of life's great truism: You get what you want so I can get what I want."
#25 of 11073 What are the must see/test drive cars? by cybersol Apr 05, 2002 (2:34 pm)
So if someone were looking to purchase a new performance luxury sedan today, what cars would they HAVE to take a look at and test drive? Lets say they only had time to look at five?   What five would they have to look into?
#26 of 11073 Must Look At by riez Apr 05, 2002 (4:16 pm)
Since it has to have a manual transmission and should be RWD (AWD/4WD adds too much weight and complexity) and has to be fun to drive hard...   1. BMW 3 Series manual 2. Lexus IS300 manual 3. Cadillac CTS manual 4. Lincoln LS6 manual   If you want affordable and can go FWD, then add Nissan Maxima 6-speed with LSD and maybe Altima 3.5SE 5-speed.   Try to get car with LSD. Inline 6s are magnificently smooth engines.   Possible future car: Infiniti G35 sedan when it finally gets the 6-speed manual.
#28 of 11073 Fred...... by coolguyky7 Apr 07, 2002 (7:22 am)
The TL should be up for redesign in a few years so a TL would be outdated in the not so far future. And besides, it seems like everyone who drives an Acura drives the TL. I LOVE the ES300. Some say it looks bloated; I don't think it does. At the 3/4 angle, it looks impressive. The interior is as nice as a car can get. If I had the money, I would buy an ES300 in a heartbeat. I never did like the past ones' boring styling...especially since the last two generations were nearly twins. Go with the ES. Besides, Lexus' quality is ahead of Acura's.
#29 of 11073 ES300 by kdshapiro Apr 07, 2002 (2:59 pm)
The new ES is a very smart looking car. Notwithstanding any engine issues though, I think there are direct price competitors like the I35 that offer better overall value on paper. Now I haven't driven either new model, I did drive the older ES300 and it did it's job very well. They are both great cars. Lexus for legendary reliability and resale value, Infiniti for up-to-date features.
#30 of 11073 jagboyxkr by blueguydotcom Apr 08, 2002 (2:32 pm)
Um...you left off the Infiniti G35 and it's bland, boring brother the I35 (the ES300's competition).   29k gets someone a 4 door 260 HP performance entry level luxury sedan with all sorts of goodies.

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