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BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
Oct 04, 2013 (10:29 am)
I don't know if I posted that my wife ordered a 2014 Q5 3.0T P+ with the sport interior, nav, B&O, blind spot monitoring, etc. Thing is, as is her "policy" we test drive the crap outta anything she is even remotely serious about. Once she had it down to the Q5, it was a matter of "which engine?"
We drove the slightly HP (+9) up-rated 2014 2.0T with the 8-spd tiptronic; then the 3.0T also with the 8-spd (of course, since that is all that is offered) then the 2.0T and so on.
I decided I really liked the "detuned" S4 engine enough to rule out even an all sported up A4 2.0T S-Line -- meaning a new IS 350 F Sport AWD was the only way to go. At the time, I knew I was not worthy of an S4 -- and besides, they were in a whole 'nother price class.
So, I configured the IS, got a "no strings attached" order placed (apparently none exist with the uprated sound system -- they have to be ordered?!) And was prepped to wait 120 days. Mean time back in Audi-ville, the new 3.0T Q5 production reports started coming in -- we even got the arrival date and got the Audi dealer to take the 2011 Infiniti FX35 off of my wife's hands about 5 months ahead of the lease termination.
The Audi dealer is a sweet-heart (due to our lengthy history with Audi and the dealership) and a couple of weeks ago, the sales rep sent me an email offering test drives of an A5 2.0T (with sport suspension) and an S-Tronic S4 (which I had already tested and was smitten by).
To make a long story short, my membership in the Audi Club got me an immediate 6% off of the sticker of a new Audi and *BONUS* got my wife a $1,000 loyalty bonus on her inbound 3.0T Q5.
It was like watching the Exorcist 128 times in a row -- "It got better and better every time."
So, I said, get me a new S4 in Ibis white (a no charge paint color) and nav and B&O and blind spot monitoring and I'm there.
Get me one, like the above but with the Magma Red Leather interior and carbon fiber inlays.
There's one in the US (in NY) and none on a boat. Never mind, I'll order one.
Days later -- email dings: The NY car is yours.
It is being trucked from NY to Cincinnati practically as we speak.
Hmm an S4 vs an IS 350 F Sport? The S-Tronic transmission (DSG) is worth the price of admission and the supercharged engine is, well, incredible and, all things considered, economical. Put the thing in dynamic mode and it is a four-door hot rod. Keep it in comfort mode and it is just south of a full-on LPS.
I've never had a red interior -- but the pictures of the leather and the contrast with the white exterior seem, er, almost tasteful.
I'm starting to feel more worthy.
Good bye Acura TL, good bye.
#16750 of 16984 Re: Caved in [markcincinnati]
Oct 04, 2013 (11:14 am)
Correct me if I am wrong, based on Edmunds TMV, 6% off MSRP translates to a approximately $200 over invoice: $54,725 MSRP as I optioned = $51,442?
Oct 04, 2013 (11:53 am)
I believe you are right. When I started out, pre Audi Club discount, the dealer offered 5% off. The ACNA certificate bumped it up to 6%. The dealer discounted the Q5 MORE than 6%, so the ACNA discount wasn't the best deal.
My wife ordered the Q5 in Curvee Silver with the Chestnut brown sport interior giving her sport seats (ahhhhhh) and the three spoke steering wheel with paddle shifters.
Funny thing, the S4 S-Tronic has paddle shifters but the car is smarter than most people (like me), so you're better off leaving the S-Tronic to its own devices. The 8-speed tiptronic, however, only comes with paddle shifters if you get the sport interior (which is rare), and the 8-speed benefits from them.
Here's one that puzzles me: why not market an A4 with the same engine as the Q5 3.0T (a detuned S4 supercharged affair good for 295 ft pounds of torque)?
I haven't had a speeding ticket in almost 20 years -- gulp! The S4 could easily break that streak.
I think the S4 has "high-def" (is that right?) radio too; my wife's last BMW had that and it was quite enjoyable and actually had better fidelity than sat radio.
More info once I get the thing.
#16752 of 16984 Re: Caved in [markcincinnati]
Oct 04, 2013 (12:14 pm)
Congrats on these cars. Great choices, great colors. I've always liked the white/red leather combo since (gulp) the 70's. Either this or the black with red, I think are among the nicest. The great thing about a red interior is that it isn't drab like black or light beige interiors. It's also easy to keep clean and every time you get in the car, it really pops and you'll be energized. (Can you tell I like red?) Anyhow, good luck, and keep us apprised.
#16753 of 16984 Re: Caved in [markcincinnati]
Oct 04, 2013 (12:14 pm)
"Good bye Acura TL, good bye."
I think you enjoyed it, but there's nothing like going back to the mother ship, apparently.
You and a number of ther people on these boards have gone through 4-6 cars in the time it's taken me to live with two. The second/current is an Acura TSX, and it's not given me a bit of trouble, beyond the fact that the damn driver's door wants to close itself far too easily. That's the sum total of my complaint (singular) in 5.5 years and 80K miles of driving. It drives the wrong pair of wheels, but has a delightful manual transmission and a suspension that was developed for the rest of the world, so I'm very pleased overall.
You can now continue bumping up the number of Audis you've been in possession of over the years. Sounds like your wife has returned to the fold also.
#16754 of 16984 checking oil
Oct 04, 2013 (12:54 pm)
i just bought a 2010 tsx when i got home i wanted to check the oil, when i pulled out the oil dip stick i noticed that it was black not like the ususal silver ones i have never seen a black one, i couldnt even tell if the oil was clean or not untill i used a towel and saw that it was a bit dirty, my question is...is the oil dipstick supposed to be black and why would the oil not be clear, the dealership did change the filters cleaned the whole engine before i took it home
#16755 of 16984 Re: MB CLA FWD [stickguy]
Oct 04, 2013 (1:03 pm)
The A12 does not include the rear diff; that is a 6 in Acura-speak. A12 should be oil change, filter chg, pollen filter and tire rotation.
#16756 of 16984 Re: Caved in [markcincinnati]
Oct 04, 2013 (2:26 pm)
Would be interesting to drive an S4 back to back with the full Quattro (rear differential add-on) vs. the BASE Quattro AWD. To me that would be more important than the inlays.
Besides, I prefer the aluminum inlays to the carbon fiber, and they are cheaper to boot!
Do 100% agree on the magma red interior being the best, I got mine ordered with the Misano Red exterior to go with it. I'm no longer afraid of cops; I'm too old and too wise; but they still waste my time with court appearances.
#16757 of 16984 Re: Caved in [andres3]
Oct 05, 2013 (8:01 am)
markincincinnati....congrats. Mine is Ibis white with the black leather and alcantara seats.
DSG I leave in sport mode. No way I could shift a manual and throttle blip as fast as the DSG does.
Mine is the same as andres and yours except for the all leather seats, and mine has the trick toque vectoring differential.
Where did you get yours? Montgomery or Beechmont?
#16758 of 16984 Re: Caved in [graphicguy]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Oct 05, 2013 (8:53 am)
mark is an Audi Connection guy, I think...