Last post on Dec 06, 2013 at 7:58 AM
You are in the Sedans
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BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#16505 of 16984 Re: BMW 320i [andres3]
Aug 24, 2013 (4:59 am)
I think the "is" is available on coupe only because it is old E90 platform. It used to be available on sedan as well, but they switched the platforms. New 4-series won't have "is" trim just yet, either.
The "is" trim is usually a mid-cycle refresh gimmick to maintain sales and buzz on models that are no longer "all new", to keep them running. IIRC, it wasn't available on the new platform with 330i right away, either. Then when they brought the turbo six engine (335i), it wasn't there either until some time has passed. If the patterns were to repeat, we should see (hopefully) some "is" trims available on the new F30 platform, as the novelty wears off. It (the novelty) already has passed for sedans, but you still have brand new wagon, GT, 328 diesel, 320, the 4-series coupe coming just in 2013, /2014 season. The convertible is next, I'm sure. Once the entire lineup is complete, the sedan will come with a refreshed look, as it always does and some additional stuff, to keep the interest and push early lessee adopters from 2012 to getting into 2015/16. I think that would be a perfect time for them to introduce the "is" trim on F3x lineup.
All manufacturers try to spoonfeed their new stuff, so there is always something to talk about. BMW actually brought a lot of new models this year, so they'll wait with incremental improvements until they see buzz dying off.
#16506 of 16984 Re: BMW 320i [kyfdx@Edmunds]
Aug 24, 2013 (5:22 am)
[i]graphicguy had the dealer apply the performance engine update to his 335i for around $600, I think..
Presto! 320 HP!![/i]
I still think BMW is underrating that 3.0 twin scroll turbo motor....just like Audi is doing with their S/C 3.0.
Both are putting out more power than they officially publish.
#16507 of 16984 Re: BMW 320i [kyfdx@Edmunds]
Aug 24, 2013 (7:05 am)
"graphicguy had the dealer apply the performance engine update to his 335i for around $600, I think..
Presto! 320 HP!!"
Didn't Graphic have the 335is which had the 320hp engine?
So, BMW has the "is" model which comes with performance improvements already, however, there is a price to pay for that too!!
#16508 of 16984 Re: BMW 320i [graphicguy]
Aug 24, 2013 (7:08 am)
It's been reported by a couple of vendors that the 3l engine is making roughly 330hp, but I also think that BMW has always underrated their engines, my 330 with "only 235hp" was faster then some cars with 80 + HP.I'm sure the close ratio transmission had something to do with it.
#16509 of 16984 Re: BMW 320i [flightnurse]
Aug 24, 2013 (8:27 am)
FN...nope. Mine was the 335i with the performance pack (firmware) upgrade. The 335is also had some minor suspension and wheel tweaks.
adnres....good deal on the S4. I might have missed it, but have you already bought it? Or, are you just working on the "deal"?
Mark.....don't disagree with any of what you have to say. If I were in the market for an SUV, the Q5 would be at the top of the list.
That said, I tcompare the two Audi dealerships in my 'burg to my BMW dealership, and there's a night and day difference with the advantage going to BMW. Even when I had my Acura, my preferred dealer took very good care of me.
As I mentioned previously, it might have been because I bought my S4 in Chicago and am having it serviced in Cincinnati. But, I really don't buy into a dealership treating you better if you buy the car from them. Warranty work is paid the same regardless. And, let's face it, service work has a whole lot more margin than new car sales.
I think the training, the time spent understanding the cars, the amount of time spent daily focused on customer service (or lack thereof) becomes evident in the way they take care of your problems.
Your Acura dealership experience would have prompted me to send a strongly worded letter to Acura corporate. Your car is what? A year old? And already has warped rotors? I call that a defect in materials and covered under warranty. It's not like you have 50K miles on one set of pads which are totally worn away.
#16510 of 16984 iS Re: BMW 320i [andres3]
Aug 24, 2013 (2:44 pm)
'I did find it annoying the XXX number iS models from BMW are only available in Coupes, and those have the 320 HP or so...'
If the sedan 335 had been available in 'iS' form
that is what I would have chosen in 2011.
Turned mine in recently & walked away from the brand..
#16511 of 16984 Re: iS Re: BMW 320i [rayainsw]
Aug 24, 2013 (8:26 pm)
You should have put a Dinan sticker on your rear deck. It adds 30 hp.
#16512 of 16984 30 HP Re: iS Re: BMW 320i [fedlawman]
Aug 25, 2013 (3:43 am)
It was actually the 370 TQ
that pushed my over the edge...
#16513 of 16984 Re: iS Re: BMW 320i [fedlawman]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Aug 25, 2013 (6:26 am)
When I bought my 330Ci, the model designation had already been removed from the trunk lid... I gained 5 HP just from better aerodynamics!
#16514 of 16984 Re: iS Re: BMW 320i [kyfdx@Edmunds]
Aug 25, 2013 (9:22 am)
Yes, that's an often overlooked tweak!
Don't forget the door handles and mirrors too...