Last post on Dec 06, 2013 at 7:58 AM
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BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#16327 of 16984 Re: Infiniti G37 Journey vs. Acura TL 'Base' [sweendogy]
Jun 27, 2013 (7:07 am)
so a decline in sales over a period of 6 years (and giving more discounts then its comps) is a good thing for profits and brand?
Gee, don't remember saying anything like that. But to answer your question....of course not.
"SUVs became popular in the United States, Canada, India and Australia in the 1990s and early-2000s. U.S. automakers could enjoy profit margins of $10,000 per SUV, while losing a few hundred dollars on a compact car. For example, the Ford Excursion could net the company $18,000, while they could not break even with the Ford Focus unless the buyer chose options, leading Detroit's big three automakers to focus on SUVs over small cars."
While this talks about Ford, from everything I've read about margins online, in magazines and in the daily newspapers say the same thing re all automakers. SUVs have much better margins than passenger cars so selling a high proportion mix of SUVs vs. passenger cars should maintain profit margins. Of course, good profit margins on all lines would be preferable. But the fact remains that your statement about Acura having little to no profit was just one big assumption. Good to see you finally admitted that your statement was basically an educated guess which is pretty much what any opinion is. Some are just more educated than others.
#16328 of 16984 Re: Infiniti G37 Journey vs. Acura TL 'Base' [sweendogy]
Jun 27, 2013 (7:39 am)
What you are cut and pasting is all over the financial blogs so save your time and energy because I have two screens I sit at for 10 hrs per day.
Also, dont you know that those top ten comparisions are subjective?
#16329 of 16984 Re: Infiniti G37 Journey vs. Acura TL 'Base' [m6user]
Jun 27, 2013 (7:51 am)
Some are just more educated than others. yes fact based, instead of broad statements.
just one big assumption not really that big as its backed by sales numbers and discounts that are published.. and the fact that those said discounts are more then the comp and those said sales numbers are a third of its biggest competitor.
we've all seen the SUV type message written in NYT or the NYP--but again you have never produced any numbers to dispute my educated opinion just broad industry chatter that suvs are high margin, wonder how acura did on the margins of the zdx last year when they sold 800, but again but why should we look at sales numbers when we have chatter on the ford focus vs excursion (hasnt been produced since 05) above above. Sales numbers do not tell the whole story- but a better story then you present. sorry
#16330 of 16984 Re: Infiniti G37 Journey vs. Acura TL 'Base' [nyccarguy]
Jun 28, 2013 (1:24 pm)
I'm going to purchase my next vehicle. Once the lease is up on my BMW, I want off of the "leasing hamster wheel."
Leasing isn't for everybody, but a lot of people do it for all the wrong reasons.. BTW, I thought this was your first lease?
#16331 of 16984 Re: Infiniti G37 Journey vs. Acura TL 'Base' [m6user]
Jun 28, 2013 (1:27 pm)
sweendogy...you said I was mocking you. Not intentional, just handing out some of the same medicine you do. I actually agree with you about 90% of the time. Just didn't make sense this time. Cheers.
Interesting it's OK for Sweeny to mock others but when it happens to him he complains about it... Can't have it both way, dude.
#16332 of 16984 Re: Infiniti G37 Journey vs. Acura TL 'Base' [billyperksii]
Jun 28, 2013 (1:31 pm)
Hey Biily is Acura a separate car company or a division of HMC?
#16333 of 16984 Re: Infiniti G37 Journey vs. Acura TL 'Base' [flightnurse]
Jun 28, 2013 (2:48 pm)
Funny thing about that back and forth it had Merritt (parkway?) on both sides. Enjoyed it actually, he's wicked smart and a good debater. You could pick some knowledge reading those posts fully.
#16334 of 16984 Re: Infiniti G37 Journey vs. Acura TL 'Base' [flightnurse]
Jun 28, 2013 (5:24 pm)
No, not my 1st lease. I financed the TSX I had before the BMW. But maybe I should have phrased differently. I want to buy my next car and NOT get started on the leasing hamster wheel.
Jun 28, 2013 (8:11 pm)
A reporter would like to speak to a recent buyer of a car from a manufacturer that is widely considered "American"--e.g. Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Chrysler, Cadillac-- who has not previously owned an "American" car. If this is you, please send your daytime contact info to predmunds.com no later than Monday, July 1, 2013 no later than noon Pacific.
#16336 of 16984 2014 BMW loaded into Website
Jul 05, 2013 (1:34 pm)
Bored on a flight Wed night, was playing on the net and saw that BMW loaded the 4 series, the 328d and GT. One interesting note, the EPA has not released it's MPG figures for the 328d, I'm sure BMW will be doing a big media blitz once they are. I like the GT, however, the price is steep.