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#16231 of 16985 2013 Acura TL 'Special Edition'
Jun 14, 2013 (5:40 pm)
Does anyone know when the recently announced 2013 Acura TL 'Special Edition' will actually be available? The Press Release introducing the car was 6/07/13, which was one week ago.
The Special Edition adds 10-spoke 18" alloys, Keyless Access w/ Push-Button Start and rear spoiler. It's only available in Black, Pearl White, Graphite or Silver and Ebony (Black) leather with contrasting stitching is the only interior color available.
It is priced $1500 higher than the TL 'Base' which isn't a bad deal. But even more interesting is that Acura is offering the same exact lease deal as the Base TL, down to the penny. Both models were $1499 due at signing, $319/month for 36 months and 10,000 miles per year allowed. I'd love to see and drive the Special Edition....but wonder when it will start showing up at dealers?
#16232 of 16985 Re: 2013 Acura TL 'Special Edition' [igozoomzoom]
Jun 14, 2013 (6:16 pm)
I'm sure it doesn't drive that much dif then the normal edition so maybe drive the normal one. Interesting they are releasing a 2013 special at the end of June-
#16233 of 16985 Re: More maintenance on diesel [fedlawman]
Jun 15, 2013 (7:54 am)
Hey Fed, the German wont import the smaller Diesels here, because of the American mentally of more is better. So they will import the top diesel engine.
#16234 of 16985 Re: More maintenance on diesel [fedlawman]
Jun 15, 2013 (4:03 pm)
Euros pay a lot less in tax if they stay under certain engine displacement. No such tax breaks in the U.S.
#16235 of 16985 Re: More maintenance on diesel [m6user]
Jun 15, 2013 (6:56 pm)
I wouldn't call those breaks. If anything, these are penalties for personal vehicles with engines 2.0 l or more. It's not on just the taxes but also insurance rates that are based on the engine displacement. Both 2 liter is a magic number.
#16236 of 16985 Re: More maintenance on diesel [dino001]
Jun 15, 2013 (9:10 pm)
Whatever. Point is the Euros pay less if they keep their engine size small. No such "incentive" here. That and the price of fuel is also additional incentive to go with small displacement and accompanying higher MPG.
#16237 of 16985 Re: More maintenance on diesel [m6user]
Jun 16, 2013 (6:19 am)
That's right. Bottom line, Europeans use small engines not because they like the, but because their government told them to.
#16238 of 16985 Re: More maintenance on diesel [dino001]
Jun 16, 2013 (8:34 am)
Dino, your right the 2 L is the magic number and MB has a 2.1L diesel that is one of their big work horses, which is being imported to the US.
#16239 of 16985 Re: More maintenance on diesel [dino001]
Jun 16, 2013 (8:36 am)
Exactly, and given the same scenario that we have in U.S. the Euros would also be driving bigger cars with bigger engines. Some would have you believe it is just one big character fault of Americans. It's not a matter of natural enlightenment.
#16240 of 16985 Re: More maintenance on diesel [m6user]
Jun 16, 2013 (9:06 am)
I dont think anyone claims it's a character fault of Americans or a matter of European enlightenment. The presence of highly regarded tuner companies overseas speaks to the same desire for more speed/performance.
However, if you go back a few decades before the displacement limits/taxes were imposed overseas, you'll still find that American cars were generally larger and higher in displacement/horsepower than European cars.
I think it has more to do with the nature and history of Europe and their lifestyle. City congestion (homes are small compared to ours too), tiny narrow streets, limited parking, etc. Their cities are much older than ours and not originally designed to accommodate cars (cobblestone, roundabouts, etc.). They dont have as many (or as large) freeways as we do nor do they travel on highways as far or frequently as we do either. And they have crazy high gas prices...