Last post on Dec 06, 2013 at 7:58 AM
You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#16148 of 16984 Re: My F30 328xi impressions [dino001]
Jun 01, 2013 (4:57 pm)
The idea that one select car company (i guess alfa guys do as well) and its owners uses terms that are not widely used in a car conversation is what it is- this is not just a bmw forum, and I think it's douchie- I never called anyone self centered but this idea that real car enthusiasts have to know the code for a 2001 525 is. (As noted by my cigar and scotch comment)
And the Altima challenge was very one sided if you ask me-
#16149 of 16984 Re: My F30 328xi impressions [dino001]
Jun 01, 2013 (6:03 pm)
Opinions and challenges are fine, the tone can be a problem. The Altima was a good challenge. Calling people self centered douches (whether directly or not), because they used some unfamiliar vocabulary is not.
As somebody who posts quite a bit in other Edmund's forums but only mostly reads this one, I do find this forum has quite a bit more attitude than others. Perhaps fitting of the "higher-end" snobbish stereotype that I'm sure the forum posters don't want to convey to a general audience? (not directed at you, but a general comment on the "ELLPS" forum.
#16150 of 16984 Re: My F30 328xi impressions [tlong]
Jun 01, 2013 (7:41 pm)
I personally dont find it snobbish. I find it childish. In a forum where adult car enthusiasts come to discuss, debate, learn about, and/or admire luxury performance cars, slinging personal taunts and making ascerbic condescending comments brings the entire community down.
Im not saying anyone has violated this, but here is the Edmunds Member Conduct Agreement for perspective:
"We welcome all points of view on automotive matters. However, although interactions within the Community Services occur in cyberspace, everyday manners apply. Please respect and interact with fellow Members as you would in any public arena. Civility and respect underlie the success of an on-line community; if you wish to take issue with the statements of other Members or the Hosts, please engage in healthy, mature debate and not immature behavior or name-calling. While we want to maintain an inviting environment for all visitors, disruptive conduct, such as off-topic comments in a topic-oriented discussion in the Forums, is not allowed. Neither is "spam" (e.g., posting your message in multiple places throughout the Forums)."
As for the BMW "E" and "F" designations. I agree most people dont have them all memorized (and who does?). On the other hand, we are mostly enthusiasts in this group and since it is the ELLPS thread, the only BMW being routinely discussed here is the 3-Series. And over the past 30 years, there have only been five (sedans):
E30, E36, E46, E90, F30
The E90 (2005-2012) and F30 (2012-present) are clearly the most talked about here so if you only know those two, you're good to go. And if you dont want to learn them, thats ok too - you probably call them "Beemers" anyways so it doesnt matter
But, for that one-in-a-hundred mention of a rogue E-car, if you're curious there are ways to be in the know. For example, people have used the M-B "W" codes here before. I dont know them, but google is just a couple keystrokes away...
#16151 of 16984 Re: My F30 328xi impressions [dino001]
Jun 01, 2013 (9:02 pm)
I know it may not be in the same performance class as your current BMW wagon, but it may be comparable to the latest one, but the Volvo V60 is coming to North America, by all reports it is a very nice driving car, and with BMW toning down the sportiness, and Volvo upping it a bit, it may even wind up being a better drive ( probably not, but the s60 is apparently pretty good, and since the v60 is the wagon version it should also be good).
Thogh of course since it won't come with a manual it will be off some people's lists for that.
#16152 of 16984 Re: My F30 328xi impressions [tlong]
Jun 02, 2013 (2:31 pm)
As somebody who posts quite a bit in other Edmund's forums but only mostly reads this one, I do find this forum has quite a bit more attitude than others.
I would agree, but it appears to be due only to one or two people. This board was really active for quite awhile years ago, then went dead for quite some time when the regulars who populated it moved on to a couple of other boards. There was no hint of attitude in the "old days" that I recall.
When it came back to life, there was, and is. The majority of people (not posts, people) on here these days are fine and have interesting points of view. For the others, well, that's what the scroll wheel is all about.
#16153 of 16984 Re: My F30 328xi impressions [graphicguy]
Jun 02, 2013 (5:11 pm)
That said, I also know it has what Audi calls a "soundaktor".
It appears that BMW and Ford do the same thing these days... This is what happens when people want a quite car the soul if taken from them.
Jun 02, 2013 (6:37 pm)
But I love single malt & Cubans. As an Audi owner I'm aware of enhanced engine sound, but there are many that do it & more to come. Just reading reviews will tell you that. That being said, I would take the 4.2 in my S5 over
the supercharged 6, 10x outta 10. The 6 gives you as marginal mpg boost as the 8 gives you speed. But the sound of the 4.2 is sweet! The supercharged 6, not in the ballpark. & I feel good having ready available E93 ethanol free in my area, which I've noticed gives me 1-2 more mpg than corn swill.
#16155 of 16984 Internal "car guy" codes
Jun 02, 2013 (7:11 pm)
Just thinking about BMW's E Codes. I know MB uses "W" codes, but I have NO CLUE what they are. So I can understand if someone who is an auto enthusiast, but not completely focused on BMWs doesn't know "E" codes.
#16156 of 16984 Re: Internal "car guy" codes [nyccarguy]
Jun 02, 2013 (7:17 pm)
If you are not completely focused on BMW, then I contend you are not an auto enthusiast
#16157 of 16984 Re: just lurking [rockshocka1]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Jun 03, 2013 (3:31 am)
That's nice about ethanol-free... nothing within 50 miles of where I live...