Last post on Dec 12, 2013 at 7:09 AM
You are in the Sedans
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BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#16058 of 16985 Re: Entry level larger luxury sedan [fedlawman]
May 01, 2013 (11:19 am)
Big peeve of mine to see how high the sills are on new cars. And speaking of convertibles, who wants a convertible where only the tips of your ears are above the doors?
Briefly when I was 16, I had a bugeye sprite, now talk about wind in your face and hair blown around. I ended up selling it and bought a Datsun Roadster had that until my senior year in HS.
#16059 of 16985 Re: Entry level larger luxury sedan [flightnurse]
May 01, 2013 (12:27 pm)
I ended up selling it and bought a Datsun Roadster had that until my senior year in HS.
Was it a 1600 or a 2000? I love Datsuns from that era -- drove a '68 1600 sedan (later to become the 510) and a '73 510 for many many miles.
#16060 of 16985 Re: Entry level larger luxury sedan [graphicguy]
May 01, 2013 (1:04 pm)
Funny thing, my mechanic told me the same thing too, additionally he is advocating for me to keep the TL. He keeps mentioning that it looks like I bought it yesterday-thanks to the many Zaino products and a garage.
I dont know, maybe or maybe not- I will let the Forum know.
#16061 of 16985 Re: Entry level larger luxury sedan [billyperksii]
May 01, 2013 (5:42 pm)
Billy....one of the things I miss most from the TL are the headlights. My S4 has HIDs with LEDs. The TL "only" has HIDs. They are worlds better than the Audi's lamps. Same goes for the A6.
#16062 of 16985 Re: Entry level larger luxury sedan [graphicguy]
May 01, 2013 (9:42 pm)
My independent mechanic told me a while ago...."if you're only going to keep a car 3-4 years, one of the German marques will do. If you're going to keep a car past 3-4 years, get a Japanese marque (he specifically likes Honda products). If you want a car that's cheap to maintain, get an American marque."
A "while ago" that might have been good advice but I own two German cars more than a decade old that continue to give reliable day to day service with fewer problems than I'd expect from any car of that age. I know several other people in the same boat so it's not just a sample of two.
Thew belief that German cars become hideously expensive to run after a few years/miles works to the advantage of those who buy them when they're over 4-5 yrs/o. They're fantastic values if you buy carefully.
#16063 of 16985 Re: Entry level larger luxury sedan [graphicguy]
May 02, 2013 (4:08 am)
Graph- I get it- you are INDIRECTLY telling me to stick with the TL.
#16064 of 16985 Re: Entry level larger luxury sedan [billyperksii]
May 02, 2013 (6:00 am)
billy.....LOL! It's your money. I can spend it for you if you'd like.
I like both the TL and my Audi. There are just certain things that the TL does better than the Audi (or my previous BMW 3 for that matter). Headlights is just one of them. I know it's the new "bling" trend to have LED lights. But, I've yet to see any car beat the illumination of the TL's HIDs. The TL's sport seats are more comfortable than those in my S4 (which has really good seats, too).
My money....given a choice? I would keep the TL. The A6 (and my S4) is a great car. Is it $15K+ better than the TL SH AWD? I'd be hard pressed to say so.
I've decided that I've hit the cross roads of diminishing returns with the $50K-$55K price point I've been hovering in (which is where the Audis and BMWs seem to hit).
Again, it will be a couple of years, but I'll probably return to Acura after they announce the new TL. Strong rumor that it will be a 2015....right when I'm ready to buy. Also, assuming it still has a 6 cyl and is at least as good as the present TL.
#16065 of 16985 Re: Entry level larger luxury sedan [graphicguy]
May 02, 2013 (7:00 am)
Actually, I went back in December 2012and test drove the A6 extensively.
The sales guy was one of the nicest I had met at any of the three Audi dealership in Fairfield County CT. I almost swapped it out at that point but my value side got the better of me- we'll see about that.
I agree with you on the headlights, I swapped out the fogs for HID's, you can see me coming from a mile.
I will probably wait until year end to start dibbling again- hopefully the markets keep doing what they are doing now.
#16066 of 16985 Re: Entry level larger luxury sedan [graphicguy]
May 02, 2013 (7:01 am)
Like you've said many times GG, none of us (with possibly the exception of Roadburner & Fedlawman) comes close to our respective cars limits of acceleration & adhesion, especially on public roads. No matter how fast we tackle twisty back roads or blast off onto an open highway.
There are days when I jump onto 95 and have been able to set my cruise at 80 mph. Traveling at that speed, I've been passed (easily) by a 2003 V6 Camry, a 2004 Suburban just to name a few. At the same point, I've passed by Aston Martins, 911 Cabs, & even Ferraris with my cruise set at 65 mph. All of us here enjoy what we drive.
Are there differences between a TL SH AWD Advanced & the 5er, E350, or A6? Absolutely. The Germans don't just charge more because they can. I'm not going to say one is more durable or reliable than the other. But if the Acura is 8/10ths of the comparable German Sedan, I'll be on my way to pick up a TL.
#16067 of 16985 limits Re: Entry level larger luxury sedan [nyccarguy]
May 02, 2013 (7:42 am)
'Like you've said many times GG, none of us (with possibly the exception of Roadburner & Fedlawman) comes close to our respective cars limits of acceleration & adhesion, especially on public roads. '
This is actually one reason that I am so addicted to TQ.
I can typically find a portion of any drive [ and an excuse ] to use WOT – even if only for a few seconds.
To me, that is ‘a rush’ – and I enjoy it.
High absolute cornering limits just mean I have wide leeway in my [ um, enthusiastic ] street driving.
Admitted TQ addict – and no desire to reform . . .