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#15667 of 16087 Re: Acura TL [flightnurse] by sweendogy

Feb 16, 2013 (9:00 am)

Replying to: flightnurse (Feb 16, 2013 8:46 am)
For the price it's an alternative, right? Same engines. Leather , parts., larger cheaper, newer -
 
I hope this GM SS brings the heat- I don't consider the Pontiac GT cars a failure- I think they were a casualty of poor management decisions at GM, unions and the economy tanking, lets not forget gm went bankrupt. Was it a little to late for Pontiac, yep. I don't know if the cars were a failure, as much as it was bad timing.

#15668 of 16087 Re: RLX [mlevine] by flightnurse

Feb 16, 2013 (9:09 am)

Replying to: mlevine (Feb 16, 2013 6:55 am)
The recent generation M took a hit with its looks and transmission problems.
 
The current M has a problem with looks? I dont think it has, the biggest problem Infiniti has really is MPG, the VQ V6 drinks a lot of gas, also the price of the M. Inifiniti prices their G lower than a BMW 3 series but the M is priced more...

#15669 of 16087 Re: Acura TL [flightnurse] by plekto

Feb 16, 2013 (9:16 am)

Replying to: flightnurse (Feb 16, 2013 8:46 am)
The tsx is a nice accord alternative but not a better car for thr price.
  
Sweeny even though the TSX is a European accord, it is not an alternative for the US accord. The US accord is more the size of the TL.
 
The Accord that they sold in Japan until the model change this year was the same Accord that they sell in the rest of the world as the Accord.
 
Except in the U.S., where they called it the Acura TSX and charged a premium for it. What we got as the Accord over here is a car that's in-between the Civic and the Accord, called the Inspire. The Accord that we get over here now is a special-built car for the U.S. market and as such it still is a kind of bastardized car that's really not the same thing that they sell in Japan.
 
If you want the real "Accord", buy what they call the TSX like the rest of the world does. It's a far better vehicle than the over-sized mess that we are now getting. Personally, I'd take a CPO TSX over a new Accord. If I wanted a car that was that big and drove like the new Accord/TL, I'd buy a Buick or maybe a Toyota Avalon.

#15670 of 16087 Re: Here you go Acura [flightnurse] by nyccarguy

Feb 16, 2013 (10:59 am)

Replying to: flightnurse (Feb 16, 2013 8:39 am)
I used to be as anti GM as they come. In my eyes, they've really done a complete 180 compared to the garbage they put in the showroom in the '80s, '90s, & the better part of the '00s.
 
After 2 superb ownership experiences with BMW X5s (2004 & 2007), my Dad decided he wanted a bigger vehicle. He bought a 2010 LTZ Tahoe. After 2 years & 50,000 miles he traded it in & bought a 2011 LTZ Tahoe. After years of driving imports, my best friend bought a 2009 LTZ Tahoe & then traded it in on a 2011 Tahoe. Are they as we'll designed as the German or Japanese cars? No. GM does seem to be making great strides. Enough so that if one of their vehicles (like the SS) drives the way I like a car to drive, that I'd have no problem buying one.

#15671 of 16087 Re: RLX [flightnurse] by mlevine

Feb 16, 2013 (11:52 am)

Replying to: flightnurse (Feb 16, 2013 9:09 am)
In my daily dealings I have had people like the design of the prior M generation than the current one. The same can be said of the prior QX56 and newest design. I was almost going to lease the M37, but multiple issues with the transmission shifting prompted me to stay away. I am still a fan of the M37 and compare it to the E class MB and BMW 5 series.

#15672 of 16087 Re: Acura TL [sweendogy] by flightnurse

Feb 16, 2013 (4:22 pm)

Replying to: sweendogy (Feb 16, 2013 9:00 am)
For the price it's an alternative, right? Same engines. Leather , parts., larger cheaper, newer -
 
The TSX is smaller than the last 2 generations of Accord, I don't think its the same engine either. Price could be in line, but the people shopping an Accord were not cross shopping a TSX. Friends who bought a TSX never once went to a honda dealer and looked at an accord.
 
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2014-chevrolet-ss-sedan-photos-and-info-news
 
Just another Aussie built RWD... When Rick and I were in Australia a few years ago being car nutz, we checked out some of the Ford and GM cars, as far as overall design they are different, not just that they are RHD, they do their own thing when it comes to design. Not saying that it was right or wrong, just different The G8 was a good car, however, the dash design was not what Americans liked. Like i said, I hope GM doesn't screw this one up.

#15673 of 16087 Re: RLX [mlevine] by flightnurse

Feb 16, 2013 (4:27 pm)

Replying to: mlevine (Feb 16, 2013 11:52 am)
I like the M too, however, for the price I think a 5 series is a better car. The price for a M56 is slightly less (1,500) then a 550i. I'd take the twin turbo V8 over the INfiniti V8, and a 550i can be had with a manuel, something the infiniti lacks. The E class is not a sport sedan unless you look at the AMG model.

#15674 of 16087 Re: Acura TL [flightnurse] by sweendogy

Feb 16, 2013 (4:38 pm)

Replying to: flightnurse (Feb 16, 2013 4:22 pm)
If price is inline - why would they not shop accord vs tsx? Both have a 4 and a 6 engine - both are Hondas and both can be had with leather- both are fwd. To me it doesn't make sense not to cross shop.

#15675 of 16087 BMW- owners by sweendogy

Feb 16, 2013 (4:43 pm)

BMW alert another recall- recall they had a massive recall last year as well.
If you are among the unlucky 569,000, BMW will notify you next month and tells AP that it will “replace the battery cable connector and secure it for free.” Very nice.
 
owners of “3-Series sedans, wagons, convertibles and coupes from the 2007 through 2011 model years, 1-Series coupes and convertibles from 2008 through 2012, or the Z4 sports car from 2009 through 2011,” then BMW is recalling your vehicle.
 
Lots of leased cars coming back to the showrooms- could use this also as a time to seduce people to early return cars, CPO could heat up.

#15676 of 16087 Re: BMW- owners [sweendogy] by busiris

Feb 16, 2013 (8:54 pm)

Replying to: sweendogy (Feb 16, 2013 4:43 pm)
BMW alert another recall- recall they had a massive recall last year as well.
If you are among the unlucky 569,000, BMW will notify you next month and tells AP that it will “replace the battery cable connector and secure it for free.” Very nice.
  
owners of “3-Series sedans, wagons, convertibles and coupes from the 2007 through 2011 model years, 1-Series coupes and convertibles from 2008 through 2012, or the Z4 sports car from 2009 through 2011,” then BMW is recalling your vehicle.
 
Well, I'm one of the "unlucky ones", using your terminology...
 
Of the 3 BMW products I currently own, all since new, it's the first recall I've personally had from BMW.
 
IMO, some folks make way too much "static" about car recalls. Unless a recall is for something serious (brakes may fail without prior warning, car fuel tank may explode without warning, etc.), I just don't see a recall as a big deal.
 
My daughters both drive Nissan products, and both experienced recalls. One was for a potential leaking brake master cylinder inspection, and the other for an incorrectly installed side air bag. In both cases, no defects were found on either car.
 
Frankly, as complex as many cars are today, I'm surprised there aren't more recalls.

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