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#15588 of 16087 Re: 320i [flightnurse] by sweendogy

Jan 30, 2013 (11:08 am)

Replying to: flightnurse (Jan 30, 2013 8:10 am)
Wow imagine if you just signed a deal to buy a 57k automatic 335x - I'm sure that cats accountant would be pissed.
 
Dollars make sense - remember this is Elpps -

#15589 of 16087 New Q50 thoughts by mlevine

Jan 30, 2013 (3:38 pm)

Having owned infiniti vehicles in the past, I always like to see and test drive the new vehicles when they come out. I recently looked at the JX this past December. For the money the inetrior and options were great. The drive was very sluggish without any guts. About 2 years ago looked at the M37 with interior and options great, but transmission did not shift well. Test drove the QX56 great pickup and great vehicle. Based on infiniti's trend the inside of the Q50 showed be very appealing. My concern is how it will drive as I am concerned about the transmission, only a test drive will answer that question. I find one cannot compare Japanese vehicle to German vehicle. They are very different and both have its positives and negatives.

#15590 of 16087 Another ELLPS enters the ring.... by graphicguy

Feb 04, 2013 (10:03 am)

I actually like this one....
 
http://wot.motortrend.com/2014-mercedes-benz-cla-chased-by-a-wolf-in-new-ad-3228- 21.html

#15591 of 16087 Re: Another ELLPS enters the ring.... [graphicguy] by robr2

Feb 04, 2013 (10:07 am)

Replying to: graphicguy (Feb 04, 2013 10:03 am)
It's FWD biased so it'll be dismissed here....

#15592 of 16087 Re: Another ELLPS enters the ring.... [robr2] by nyccarguy

Feb 04, 2013 (12:56 pm)

Replying to: robr2 (Feb 04, 2013 10:07 am)
The problem I see with this CLA & every other car in this class is the 29,900 starting price. Add 4 matic, Navigation, Xenon Headlights, Distronic Cruise Control, sunroof, nice wheels... Like they'll have them loaded up on the auto show floors & in the showroom & $29,900 becomes $45K+ very quickly.

#15593 of 16087 More on the CLA by nyccarguy

Feb 04, 2013 (1:18 pm)

Turbo 4cyl
208 hp/258 lb ft torque
7 Speed Dual Clutch Automatic
 
How much does it weigh?
When are they going to put a "build your own CLA" on MBUSA's site?
 
I'll wait to judge until I see some (unbiased) write ups.

#15594 of 16087 Re: Another ELLPS enters the ring.... [nyccarguy] by robr2

Feb 04, 2013 (2:01 pm)

Replying to: nyccarguy (Feb 04, 2013 12:56 pm)
The problem I see with this CLA & every other car in this class is the 29,900 starting price. Add 4 matic, Navigation, Xenon Headlights, Distronic Cruise Control, sunroof, nice wheels... Like they'll have them loaded up on the auto show floors & in the showroom & $29,900 becomes $45K+ very quickly.$50K.
 
Much in the same way that a $35K 3 series of C class hits $50K.
 
The CLA - and soon the new 1 series and A3 - are designed to bring MB, BMW and Audi back a few years in price and size to where the next generation of buyers can afford them. I'll wager that more than 50% of the CLA will be FWD with MB TEX and be offered at $259 a month.

#15595 of 16087 Re: More on the CLA [nyccarguy] by robr2

Feb 04, 2013 (2:03 pm)

Replying to: nyccarguy (Feb 04, 2013 1:18 pm)
When are they going to put a "build your own CLA" on MBUSA's site?
 
It's not going on sale in the US until September 2013. Check back in August.

#15596 of 16087 Re: Another ELLPS enters the ring.... [nyccarguy] by ivan_99

Feb 04, 2013 (2:21 pm)

Replying to: nyccarguy (Feb 04, 2013 12:56 pm)
The 29K is a bit misleading...but it is the actual "Starting At" price.
 
A "Typically Configured At" price would be more helpful but then it's a grey area anyway. One dealer would state "our" typically configured vehicles come with leather...their's don't.
 
I wager most people realize that a new Mercedes for 29K isn't a top of the line, loaded vehicle; a loaded Optima and Focus can top that price...
 
We recently purchased a Honda Crosstour and the MSRP was 33K (4 cyl); our sales price was substantially lower. The older I get the more expensive everything seems

#15597 of 16087 Re: Another ELLPS enters the ring.... [robr2] by plekto

Feb 05, 2013 (12:52 am)

Replying to: robr2 (Feb 04, 2013 2:01 pm)
Add 4 matic, Navigation, Xenon Headlights, Distronic Cruise Control, sunroof, nice wheels...
 
Garbage that's 6K if it breaks, overpriced junk (seriously have you USED a Mercedes NAV vs a Garman?), mostly useless bling, what's wrong with normal cruise control?, terrarium that leaks eventually, and way way more pricey than better aftermarket rims.
 
The truth is, the car is best in its base configuration. If you add bling to a car like that, you're either so rich you don't care about the cost or you're a fool.

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