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#15557 of 16091 Re: 320i [stickguy] by kyfdx HOST

Jan 19, 2013 (8:20 am)

Replying to: stickguy (Jan 18, 2013 7:55 pm)
If I buy a coupe, I can go as late as 2012 on a BMW, and still get the straight six.... So.... buy one of those in 2016 and drive it for six years... that gets me to 64 yrs old...
 
So, I'm not worried about the 4-cyl turbos.....

#15558 of 16091 Re: 320i [kyfdx] by fedlawman

Jan 19, 2013 (10:39 am)

Replying to: kyfdx (Jan 19, 2013 8:20 am)
That's the way to look at it!
 
Sad though...the public doesn't care, but the I-6 will be missed by enthusiasts forever. Just like the 993 is the last great Porsche 911, someday the E90/92 will be considered the last great 3 series.

#15559 of 16091 Re: 320i [fedlawman] by habitat1

Jan 19, 2013 (11:09 am)

Replying to: fedlawman (Jan 19, 2013 10:39 am)
Sad though...the public doesn't care, but the I-6 will be missed by enthusiasts forever. Just like the 993 is the last great Porsche 911, someday the E90/92 will be considered the last great 3 series.
 
You sound a bit like the BMW track instructors I met when I picked up our X5d at the Performance Delivery Center in Spartanburg. They are not looking forward to the new M3, twin/triple/quadruple turbo 6, more power and better mpg notwithstanding. There is something about the visceral feel of an 8,400 rpm naturally aspirated V8 that they don't want to see lost. They view the M5 similarly.
 
Like the fans said when Johnny Damon left Boston for New York. No beard, no hair, no soul. Still a great ballplayer, but not the same.

#15560 of 16091 Re: 320i [kyfdx] by stickguy

Jan 19, 2013 (5:52 pm)

Replying to: kyfdx (Jan 19, 2013 8:20 am)
I might have had her on the X3, but she really wanted new and the one we saw had some scratches on the interior console or some such. Nitpicking, but she really wanted brand new. She also noted that it had about the same miles as her Odyssey, so what was the point? The point of course was I could get a slightly used 3 series too, but that was not for her!
 
and if I get used in the next few years, it would be a 6 cyl. especially from what I have read about the start/stop feature.

#15561 of 16091 Re: 320i [kyfdx] by graphicguy

Jan 21, 2013 (7:11 am)

Replying to: kyfdx (Jan 19, 2013 8:20 am)
kyfdx....I've got a cherry '11 335 ix Coupe with the Performance Pack. It has your name written all over it, if you can wait 18 months-2 years.
 
Fact is, looking at the reports from the various car shows, there's not one thing I'd want (well maybe the '14 'vette, or the BMW 4 series) instead of the vehicles already in my garage.
 
Even the newer models coming out leave me cold. Infiniti needs a big shot of refinement. Cadillac needs to dump their CUE system. I'll hold judgement on Acura until they unveil the new TLX).

#15562 of 16091 Re: 320i [sweendogy] by flightnurse

Jan 21, 2013 (8:02 am)

Replying to: sweendogy (Jan 18, 2013 6:16 pm)
Funny but a loaded ford focus could have a boatload more tech then a 180 hp BMW- and also be cheaper and very close in performance -
 
A VW GTi makes less HP then the Focus, yet is faster...
 
The Fouse ST is an interesting car, however, it is slow for making 252hp. The same thing can be said about the Mazdaspeed 3.

#15563 of 16091 Re: 320i [habitat1] by flightnurse

Jan 21, 2013 (8:12 am)

Replying to: habitat1 (Jan 18, 2013 7:27 pm)
I simply restated what they stated on their website: asking more out of a smaller engine will besult in more engine wear. So my take is that somebody that is very performance minded, goes to the track on occasion or regularly and doesn't care about shaving some life off the second 100,000 miles on the engine, the Dinan option is a viable one. But for those that are counting on the car being a daily driver for 8-10 years and do not want to take the risk of Dian's admittedly increased engine wear, might think twice.
 
I was one point shy of earning my DINAN badge with my 330, not one problem did I have with the car, I wasn't the easiest on it, whether on the track or street, granted I didn't have 100K miles on it but it was 7 years old. The engines today that are build as turbos wont self-destruct like engines 20 years ago.
 
There is always a risk when added more boost to an engine than what the manufacture had planned. This is why people need to reframe from increasing the boost too high, there is a fine line between power and reliability.

#15564 of 16091 Re: 320i [flightnurse] by sweendogy

Jan 21, 2013 (9:50 am)

Replying to: flightnurse (Jan 21, 2013 8:02 am)
Flight did you do any research on the answer, come on guy.
 
http://m.autoblog.com/2012/11/20/2013-ford-focus-st-vs-2012-volkswagen-gti-compa- rison-review/

#15565 of 16091 Re: Need help deciding on a used '08-'09 entry level lux sedan [cdnpinhead] by albion729

Jan 21, 2013 (12:25 pm)

Replying to: cdnpinhead (Aug 22, 2011 8:24 am)
I would have to pick the acura over the other cars. I currently drive an 11 Genesis sedan but, also own a 2000 Acura 3.2 tl. I bought the Acura new in 2000 and currently have 235k on the odometer. This vehicle has been strictly maintained by the Acura dealer and still runs as well as the day I bought it. I have had no major issues with the car. I have all the necessary services performed and the oil changed every 5k miles. Only downside to the Acura is that it run on premium fuel. Other than that, it is a very good car. This car is still quick and will outrun and outperform a lot of cars. Resale value is also very good on Acura's.

#15566 of 16091 Re: Need help deciding on a used '08-'09 entry level lux sedan [albion729] by sweendogy

Jan 21, 2013 (1:25 pm)

Replying to: albion729 (Jan 21, 2013 12:25 pm)
Your responding to a post from aug 2011, wonder if that cat has decided yet?

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