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#15552 of 16087 Re: 320i [flightnurse] by sweendogy

Jan 18, 2013 (6:16 pm)

Replying to: flightnurse (Jan 18, 2013 9:12 am)
Funny but a loaded ford focus could have a boatload more tech then a 180 hp BMW- and also be cheaper and very close in performance -
 
Shark has been jumped -

#15553 of 16087 Re: 320i [flightnurse] by habitat1

Jan 18, 2013 (7:27 pm)

Replying to: flightnurse (Jan 18, 2013 6:10 pm)
I didn't disagree that Dinan is one of the best, most reputable tuners around. And they can be a relatively good bang for the buck in performance. I simply restated what they stated on their website: asking more out of a smaller engine will besult in more engine wear. So my take is that somebody that is very performance minded, goes to the track on occasion or regularly and doesn't care about shaving some life off the second 100,000 miles on the engine, the Dinan option is a viable one. But for those that are counting on the car being a daily driver for 8-10 years and do not want to take the risk of Dian's admittedly increased engine wear, might think twice.
 
I have a friend who took his 996 Turbo to over 600hp/650 ft lbs at the wheels through a Porsche approved tuner as well. The car has been timed at under 10 seconds in the quarter mile, putting him a few tenths and a couple million dollars ahead of a Bugatti Veyron, so yes, I understand the economics. I just still don't see you acknowledging the increased engine wear factor - whether or not that is of importance to you, it will be to many.

#15554 of 16087 Re: 320i [andys120] by stickguy

Jan 18, 2013 (7:55 pm)

Replying to: andys120 (Jan 18, 2013 5:14 pm)
oh, if I get one, it for sure will be used.

#15555 of 16087 Re: 320i [dino001] by nyccarguy

Jan 18, 2013 (10:03 pm)

Replying to: dino001 (Jan 18, 2013 6:37 am)
You had to say "I told you so?"

#15556 of 16087 Re: 320i [stickguy] by nyccarguy

Jan 18, 2013 (10:08 pm)

Replying to: stickguy (Jan 18, 2013 11:41 am)
You probably could have sold your wife on that used X3, if she didn't test drive her RDX.
 
I've never bought used before (for a daily driver/primary car), but if my next ride is a BMW (whether I buy out my lease at the end or buy a lower mileage E90), I'm going to dip into the used market.
 
I LOVE my 328xi! It is truly a fantastic car that suits my needs perfectly.

#15557 of 16087 Re: 320i [stickguy] by kyfdx HOST

Jan 19, 2013 (8:20 am)

Replying to: stickguy (Jan 18, 2013 7:55 pm)
If I buy a coupe, I can go as late as 2012 on a BMW, and still get the straight six.... So.... buy one of those in 2016 and drive it for six years... that gets me to 64 yrs old...
 
So, I'm not worried about the 4-cyl turbos.....

#15558 of 16087 Re: 320i [kyfdx] by fedlawman

Jan 19, 2013 (10:39 am)

Replying to: kyfdx (Jan 19, 2013 8:20 am)
That's the way to look at it!
 
Sad though...the public doesn't care, but the I-6 will be missed by enthusiasts forever. Just like the 993 is the last great Porsche 911, someday the E90/92 will be considered the last great 3 series.

#15559 of 16087 Re: 320i [fedlawman] by habitat1

Jan 19, 2013 (11:09 am)

Replying to: fedlawman (Jan 19, 2013 10:39 am)
Sad though...the public doesn't care, but the I-6 will be missed by enthusiasts forever. Just like the 993 is the last great Porsche 911, someday the E90/92 will be considered the last great 3 series.
 
You sound a bit like the BMW track instructors I met when I picked up our X5d at the Performance Delivery Center in Spartanburg. They are not looking forward to the new M3, twin/triple/quadruple turbo 6, more power and better mpg notwithstanding. There is something about the visceral feel of an 8,400 rpm naturally aspirated V8 that they don't want to see lost. They view the M5 similarly.
 
Like the fans said when Johnny Damon left Boston for New York. No beard, no hair, no soul. Still a great ballplayer, but not the same.

#15560 of 16087 Re: 320i [kyfdx] by stickguy

Jan 19, 2013 (5:52 pm)

Replying to: kyfdx (Jan 19, 2013 8:20 am)
I might have had her on the X3, but she really wanted new and the one we saw had some scratches on the interior console or some such. Nitpicking, but she really wanted brand new. She also noted that it had about the same miles as her Odyssey, so what was the point? The point of course was I could get a slightly used 3 series too, but that was not for her!
 
and if I get used in the next few years, it would be a 6 cyl. especially from what I have read about the start/stop feature.

#15561 of 16087 Re: 320i [kyfdx] by graphicguy

Jan 21, 2013 (7:11 am)

Replying to: kyfdx (Jan 19, 2013 8:20 am)
kyfdx....I've got a cherry '11 335 ix Coupe with the Performance Pack. It has your name written all over it, if you can wait 18 months-2 years.
 
Fact is, looking at the reports from the various car shows, there's not one thing I'd want (well maybe the '14 'vette, or the BMW 4 series) instead of the vehicles already in my garage.
 
Even the newer models coming out leave me cold. Infiniti needs a big shot of refinement. Cadillac needs to dump their CUE system. I'll hold judgement on Acura until they unveil the new TLX).

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