Last post on Dec 04, 2013 at 8:41 AM
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BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#15518 of 16982 Re: Chipping & Tuning [flightnurse]
Jan 15, 2013 (8:33 am)
clicked on the design video and I thought it was a Lexus coming at me. Sure looks like a clone of sorts of the Lexus spindle front end.
Jan 15, 2013 (8:58 am)
Is in full swing and the car that are being shown, are amazing. I'm leaving for Detroit Thursday night can't wait to see some of these cars in person. SO far my schedule will allow me to be at the New York Auto show in April I just hope it is a little warmer then it is currently...
#15520 of 16982 Re: Chipping & Tuning [graphicguy]
Jan 15, 2013 (9:02 am)
Diesels just don't sell in this country. Lots of reasons for that....some valid...some not. Again, with the advancements in gasoline power, and hybrid technology (as well as electric cars) I don't think diesels will be anything but a niche, at best, here.
I think this is slowly changing, VW sells every single diesel they import, same for Audi and MB. With the new wave of diesel coming in more mainstream cars this is what it might take to change people thoughts.
#15521 of 16982 Re: Chipping & Tuning [flightnurse]
Jan 15, 2013 (1:30 pm)
Agree with flight- had a buddy in mass who had to go to Detroit to get a golf vw- couldn't find one on the east coast.
#15523 of 16982 Re: Chipping & Tuning [sweendogy]
Jan 15, 2013 (6:00 pm)
I agree at the moment it is the self fullfilling prophesy, Americans won't buy diesels ( hatchbacks, wagons, manuals etc) so we won't bring them here, thus nobody buys them because they aren't available, meaning that no one else brings them. I think there is a market for diesel's ( and the rest) if only they will bring them, VW and the rest of the Germans seem to be doing okay with them, we will see what happens with the other diesels that are said to be coming, if the sell more will follow.
Like I said in an earlier post I think you could get up to 25% of the market being diesel, another 25% or so hybrid, maybe 40% gas, and 10% other in the near future, with the other percentage growing in the long term, with gas engines being the loosing group, diesel may get higher if they can get an economical bio diesel out, Natural gas may get some ( but I think it is better used for ther things, the market may disagree) electric will get some and will increase as range increases and charging stations appear along at least the highways, hydrogen may come if they can figure out how to produce it cheaply enough, and using less energy to get it than it gives, and who knows what else could happen, or the worst could happen and there won't be any personal transportation for normal people.
#15524 of 16982 Re: Chipping & Tuning [scwmcan]
Jan 15, 2013 (6:31 pm)
I would choose cold fusion or the flux capacitor.
In a cheap Eco car diesels or hybrids work if they can bot for similar dollars and save mucho dollars in gas. That's why they work in Europe - things change- look at ford selling all those V6 full size pick up trucks .
#15525 of 16982 Re: Chipping & Tuning [scwmcan]
Jan 17, 2013 (8:19 am)
So again, why does VW, Audi and MB sell every single diesel they import? Now granted we are talking 50-60K units a year.. What is interesting though, VW.Audi and MB do not do a real mega advertising blitz on them either and they sell every single one.
Jan 17, 2013 (8:25 am)
According to my BMW dealership you can order a 320i starting in Feb with a March del date. You can build one on BMW website, I believe they have done it right, both Auto and Manuel are no charge, Limited colors and interior, limited options, one can be had for under 40K that is almost fully loaded. Would be interesting to see what Dinan can do with the engine, 180hp is OK, but 240 is even nicer...
Now in regards to the wagon, my dealer tells me that the wagon will not be imported, however, it is on BMW USA website. I'll find out myself Sat when I'm at the Detroit Auto Show.
I'm in the planning stage of going to the NY Auto show, and one in the NY area planning on going? would be nice to go through it with other car enthusiast...
#15527 of 16982 Re: BMW 320i and Wagon [flightnurse]
Jan 17, 2013 (8:32 am)
I would believe the website, not the dealer on the wagon. It is clearly in "Future Vehicles" tab, not "concepts". I think there will also be 3-series GT coming to the US, as well. I love my wagon so much, I'd not get the new one, but if they sell 335i GT with manual, that's the one I could consider buying instead of my wagon. I think 335i is likely, just as 5-series GT is only sold in higher output engine versions (535 and 550). Manual - that may or may not come. If they keep it in line with rest of 335 offerings, it should be available, but no saying for sure.
320i - that's news to me. I got to check it out. Not that I'd buy, but it is curious. It basically means they think the market is ready for low-powered BMW.