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BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#15447 of 16984 Re: New Infiniti [dino001]
Dec 23, 2012 (10:17 am)
Good to know. I didn't know there was any sort of method to BMW's madness.
#15448 of 16984 Re: New Infiniti [dino001]
Dec 23, 2012 (4:19 pm)
BMWs naming convention is done on purpose. It is based on what a benchmark naturally aspirated engine should be to match its power.
Nah - the convention is strictly for marketing purposes so buyers don't feel penis envy when "non" BMW enthusiasts see 320 vs a 328 look down upon their lowly 2.0.
#15449 of 16984 Re: What is it with Q? [carnaught]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Dec 23, 2012 (4:36 pm)
Ahem.....what about the Audi Q3, Q5 and Q7 ?
Oh yeah... so... now I really don't get it...
#15450 of 16984 Re: New Infiniti [robr2]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Dec 23, 2012 (4:39 pm)
strictly for marketing purposes so buyers don't feel penis envy
BMW model designations used to make sense.. but, then too many engine choices, marketing attached to certain models, and it all got too complicated to keep it strictly correct.... Now, bigger numbers are faster and more expensive... .that's all you need to know (except for Ms, and every other Tuesday)
#15451 of 16984 13 TSX vs 13 Accord V6 EXL
Dec 26, 2012 (3:43 pm)
I test drove both of these cars and found the Accord to blow the TSX away. They are both priced similarly, but I think the Accord can be had for $1 or $2K less than the TSX. The Accord has much much more power vs the TSX and better fuel economy with the cylinder deactivation on freeway. The Accord ride is refined yet it handles decently. The TSX ride is jittery. The TSX probably does handle better at the limit, but who drives like that anyway? The Accord is a 6 speed auto and TSX is 5 speed auto. The interior of the TSX is maybe a touch nicer, but with the Accord you get a backup camera without having to pay for NAV. With the TSX you have to get the NAV to get the backup camera. After comparing these I don't see any reason to buy the TSX. Am I missing something? I even think the 4 cylinder Accord is a much better value than the TSX.
#15452 of 16984 Re: 13 TSX vs 13 Accord V6 EXL [koctailz]
Dec 26, 2012 (4:30 pm)
Now take the same agrument and add the v6 accord and the standard tl. Same power - prob less refind but for the doh pretty similar I would guess. (Haveńt driven the new accord.)
Acura is the new Buick of Lux cars. Yes I said it 4 years ago and I'll say it again
#15453 of 16984 Re: 13 TSX vs 13 Accord V6 EXL [sweendogy]
Dec 26, 2012 (8:13 pm)
i haven't driven the tl either, but the specs between the v6 accord and the tl are pretty close. i do think the refreshed tl is a nice looking car, but totally overpriced. the SH AWD would be the tl to get but i have no use for AWD where I live. I do understand that the TSX is going to get dumped and there is going to be something called a TLX? Acura definitely needs to refresh these sedans with the introduction of the new 13 Accord.
#15454 of 16984 Re: 13 TSX vs 13 Accord V6 EXL [koctailz]
Dec 27, 2012 (7:51 pm)
The refreshed TL is better looking then it was - but for me personally its not enuf to get me salivating. Acura (honda) knew there was a problem with the TLs (dealers were telling them) from the beginning and they waited to long- they did not make the same mistake with the civic and quickly fixed the problem.
#15455 of 16984 It finally happened part deux
Dec 27, 2012 (10:32 pm)
First off I hope everybody had a good holiday.... It's been nice having 3 weeks off, this has allowed me to do come clinical work, at times I do miss bedside nursing.
So as some of you or most of know I have had my 330i up for sale, I placed only on the web, and at a higher price then what normal 2005 330i ZPH cars have been selling for. Since I am not in a rush to sell it so I figured I would place a higher price on mine. It was listed for 23K, with only 59K miles on it. After 4 months and many phone calls mostly by people who were trying to get my lower it down to the high teens. I received a call right before we left for San Diego for Thanksgiving, between myself getting that bug going around, and the potential buyer getting sick it was tough to connect, however, we connected, we meet up at a local BMW dealer, I figured this was safe for all involved. The guy lets call him Tommy, was waiting for me at the dealership when I pulled up. We chatted a bit, and went for a test drive, after 30 minuted we came back tot he dealership, I had the service manage pull up all the service records and warranty work that had been on the car. I had all my paperwork with me with all the work done on the car from BMW, and Autobahn Autosport (our local Dinan Authorized Dealer.) He was impressed with the car and all the paperwork I had, I even had the German Plates from the Euro Del and paper work from the shipping company. We parted way, and I he told me he was going to call me before Xmas. So a week before Xmas received a call telling me that he wanted me car and he wanted to offer me 20K for it. I countered back with 21K and it was a deal. I have a pay pal account set up, so he paid for the car this way, once the money was in my account, we meet (today 12-27-12) and I signed the paperwork over to Tommy.
I'm sort of sad that I sold my beloved 2005 BMW 330i with the ZPH package, however, I thought I did well with it, I bought it for $45K, and sold it for 21K. I added about 5K of Dinan products to the car.
So now I'm carless, but this is OK, so I get to go looking at cars, Have my eye on a couple of 2008-09 Boxster S's...
Anyhow, I hope everybody has a wonderful new years...
#15456 of 16984 Re: It finally happened part deux [flightnurse]
Dec 28, 2012 (7:00 am)
FN....cool. I had an '06 330i before the TL and my current 335i. I never understood why BMW didn't use that version of the 3.0 (255 HP non turbo) in the 328i, instead of the previous 225 HP 6 cyl or the 240 HP 4cyl they currently use.
A major snow storm hit my 'burg earlier in the week. Both the S4 and the 335i handled it with aplomb. It was very impressive given these cars' intended drivers.
We never once felt the AWD systems (quattro in the S4, "x" in the 335i) doing their work, even in 6 inches of snow with an icy crust.
Happy New Year to all of my friends here in ELLPS.