Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

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#15420 of 16091 Re: Got my car back [nyccarguy] by flightnurse

Dec 20, 2012 (9:02 am)

Replying to: nyccarguy (Dec 19, 2012 9:56 pm)
It has peaked my interest to give a 4 cyl BMW diesel a chance (X1, X3, 3 series) assuming they are out when my lease is up in September 2014.
 
Early spring of 2013 you will see a slew of 4 cyl Diesels from Audi, BMW and MB in their Q3 and Q5, X3 (not too sure of the X1) and 3 series, GLK and C class. VW will put their diesel in their Tiguan. I wish VW would bring over the other 2L TDI they have, it makes 180hp and 300 +lbs of torque this could go in the Passat and Tiguan.

#15421 of 16091 Re: Got my car back [flightnurse] by qbrozen

Dec 20, 2012 (9:10 am)

Replying to: flightnurse (Dec 20, 2012 9:02 am)
diesel X1 would be pretty sweet. Which is probably why we won't get one in the US.

#15422 of 16091 Re: Dealers Services [habitat1] by flightnurse

Dec 20, 2012 (9:14 am)

Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 19, 2012 10:52 pm)
I don't think we'll be driving nuclear powered cars in my lifetime, but I also won't ever have a gas SUV in the garage again. Diesel rules in that application. Sport sedan?? Tougher call today with the 335d gone. But hopefully soon to return.
 
With the European diesel emission coming closer and closer to that of ours, I wouldn't doubt seeing more and more diesel powered cars making it state side. Now BMW is temping with the 550d twin turbo V8 diesel, making 400+hp and 500+lbs of torque, the major downside of this car, would be keeping tires on the car. You and Discount tire guys will be good friends. I'm predicting that with in a year well have a diesel 5 series and 7 series, both being 6 cyl.
 
Audi has released the A8 diesel, so far the Q7 diesel is selling good and of course the A3 diesel sells very well.

#15423 of 16091 Re: Got my car back [qbrozen] by flightnurse

Dec 20, 2012 (9:17 am)

Replying to: qbrozen (Dec 20, 2012 9:10 am)
diesel X1 would be pretty sweet. Which is probably why we won't get one in the US.
 
Not in this current generation we wont, but the next generation I'm betting we will get a diesel X1. The currently X1 is VERY small and at least here in PHX hasn't sold very well... I'm thinking a X3 might be my next BMW, but I am waiting for the Diesel to be released first.

#15424 of 16091 Re: Got my car back [flightnurse] by qbrozen

Dec 20, 2012 (10:54 am)

Replying to: flightnurse (Dec 20, 2012 9:17 am)
Actually saw my first X1 on the road yesterday. There was a Camry in front of it, which it seemed to be just marginally taller than, and it was followed by a VUE, which was just slightly bigger. Its within a few inches of a CRV, too. And considering the price of an EXL CRV ... seems to me the X1 should be doing pretty well.
 
Have they even been advertising it? Can't say I've noticed any ads for it.

#15425 of 16091 Re: Got my car back [qbrozen] by sweendogy

Dec 20, 2012 (4:40 pm)

Replying to: qbrozen (Dec 20, 2012 10:54 am)
X1 - while the power trains are interesting - and sure it starts around the same price as a cr-v ex-l but the options like all bmws are outrageously priced want heated pleather seats 700 bux, want rear camera (which is standard on basic some no lux autos these days) 900 bux - how does a 32k starting price car have a options package for 6600 bux is a joke. - could be a great car, who knows but for the money a 2 year old x3 could be a better scoop

#15426 of 16091 Re: Got my car back [qbrozen] by flightnurse

Dec 20, 2012 (4:51 pm)

Replying to: qbrozen (Dec 20, 2012 10:54 am)
Actually saw my first X1 on the road yesterday. There was a Camry in front of it, which it seemed to be just marginally taller than, and it was followed by a VUE, which was just slightly bigger. Its within a few inches of a CRV, too. And considering the price of an EXL CRV ... seems to me the X1 should be doing pretty well.
 
Rick had a Nissan Rogue, and the X1 is smaller inside then the rogue... That could be one reason for it not selling. The back seats are VERY tight getting in and out...

#15427 of 16091 Re: Got my car back [sweendogy] by stickguy

Dec 20, 2012 (5:54 pm)

Replying to: sweendogy (Dec 20, 2012 4:40 pm)
I remember seeing the X1 parked next to an X3 when we were out shopping, and the size difference, especially height, was striking.

#15428 of 16091 Re: Got my car back [stickguy] by sweendogy

Dec 20, 2012 (5:59 pm)

Replying to: stickguy (Dec 20, 2012 5:54 pm)
Don't know how they compare in pricing but a 328 sport wagon prob has more room and is more sporty driver.

#15429 of 16091 Re: Got my car back [sweendogy] by stickguy

Dec 20, 2012 (6:02 pm)

Replying to: sweendogy (Dec 20, 2012 5:59 pm)
328 was more expensive. Cargo wise, I think it was a little longer but not as tall.
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