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#15405 of 16985 Re: Dealers Services [dino001]
Dec 19, 2012 (2:02 am)
but if there is grand or two of dealer incentive (not consumer rebate) expiring last day of current month, that is not going to be part of the equation in special order.
Think that may be case by case. My BMW dealer claims I can get the same near invoice deal from them on a custom order BMW M3 if I order by 12/31 as they would be able to give me on one of two that they have in stock on the showroom floor. I would still get the holiday and loyalty credits that expire 1/1/13, even though I wouldn't be picking up the car until March. They are still trying to tempt me away from a Porsche and I have to admit, the price on a new 2013 M3 is a heck of a deal, especially given the opportunity to custom order and pick up in Spartanburg.
#15406 of 16985 Re: Dealers Services [habitat1]
Dec 19, 2012 (5:31 am)
Go to the European Delivery forum on bimmerfest. There are plenty of dealers that will negotiate up from European Delivery INVOICE pricing. You can usually order a car from between $500 and $1000 over ED invoice. This translates to about an11% discount from US MSRP.
#15407 of 16985 Re: Dealers Services [rmorin1249]
Dec 19, 2012 (5:47 am)
That is correct, ED prices are negotiable....except, I do not believe there is any ED discount on "M" models, and obviously ED is not available on the BMW models made here in the US (X3/5/6). In addition, on some hard to get models, as in the initial introduction of the three series hardtop convertible, an ED order does not get charged against the dealers allocation, so they view it as an bonus sale and will be more aggressive in discounting ED than a US delivery car out of their limited allocation.
#15408 of 16985 Re: Dealers Services [dino001]
Dec 19, 2012 (11:18 am)
I had similar thing on BMW - the dealer was not as eager to discount on ED, there was additional coupon on US delivery, so ED price was not really as attractive, basically about same, maybe $1000 lower than US street (final) price and I still had to buy a ticket.
When I did my ED, I was able to my car under invoice, plus given airfare, one night hotel. I do remember that the dealer was happy to do the ED for me since the ZHP cars were limited production and at the time, my car was now counted in their regular allotment. Now times might have changed and ED cars might be counted towards dealers allotment. But I remember last year when looking at the 5 and 7 series we were told that ED cars were not counted as part of their allotment. I haven't looked at Volvo's or MB's programs, but I do like the fact with BMW you can set up delivery at their performance center and have fun on their track there.
#15409 of 16985 Re: 1st service loaner [habitat1]
Dec 19, 2012 (11:20 am)
So basically price won out?
#15410 of 16985 Re: Dealers Services [dino001]
Dec 19, 2012 (11:25 am)
It certainly doesn't look that way in my experiences. Instant gratification seems to be most powerful motivator. It is strenghtened by dealer's incentives based on deliveries in next month. If you make an order to be filled two or three months from now
This is the biggest issue when buying a car, most people wait until they need a car now, instead of planning for it. my neighbor bought a new 2013 335i. He traded in his 2007, when I asked if he thought about the ED program he said, Yes, but he couldn't wait the 6 months time to get his car here stateside. I do know BMW will work with you if your car is leased through BMWFS in allowing you to keep your current car until the new one arrives.
#15411 of 16985 Re: Dealers Services [habitat1]
Dec 19, 2012 (11:32 am)
That is correct, ED prices are negotiable....except, I do not believe there is any ED discount on "M" models,
If the car is built in Germany and imported to the US then the car is part of the ED program, according to BMW website, a M3 is discounted $4100 through the ED program. Which means you can get a better price than that. Take a quick long weekend trip, do the ED program, and then pick up the car in Spartanburg .
#15412 of 16985 Re: 1st service loaner [flightnurse]
Dec 19, 2012 (2:04 pm)
So basically price won out?
No, if price was all that mattered, I could have saved $13k+ on an MDX. The X5d just seemed like the right combination of attributes, appeal and best relative value. Without the full $4,500 eco credit, it probably would have still won out, just not been the no-brainer it was at the lower price. Why someone would pay MORE for a comparably equipped X5 3.5i is still beyond me.
#15413 of 16985 Re: Dealers Services [flightnurse]
Dec 19, 2012 (2:09 pm)
Didn't realize that they now include the M cars with ED discounts. So maybe I need to save a few more nickels and get one of these delivered to Spartanburg:
#15414 of 16985 Re: 1st service loaner [habitat1]
Dec 19, 2012 (4:49 pm)
Why someone would pay MORE for a comparably equipped X5 3.5i is still beyond me.
This is simple, there are people who do not associate BMW and diesel as going together, and to be bothered by wearing gloves when refueling.... As stated before, this will all change in 2013 when BMW, Audi and MB all bring over deisel power entry level cars and SUVs.