Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

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#15267 of 16251 Re: Camry vs....... [billyperksii] by sweendogy

Nov 12, 2012 (2:27 pm)

Replying to: billyperksii (Nov 12, 2012 7:37 am)
Maybe he thought it was an chrome aardvark gt

#15268 of 16251 Not exactly a ELLPS.... by habitat1

Nov 13, 2012 (12:20 pm)

...but for anybody that may be thinking about a 335i that can find a little spare change in their sofa cushions, how about a brand new BMW M3 Coupe for under $59,000? Have to order the car by the end of November to get the extra $1,500 holiday credit.
 
I just got a call from a dealer that offered to order a 2013 M3 at invoice. From that, subtract $1,500 holiday discount, $750 loyalty discount and anything else you qualify for. Mine (well equipped) would end up with an MSRP of $70.5k+/-and a final net price of just under $63k. However, if you take it easy on options, a base M3, plus navigation, heated seats, metallic paint and BMW Apps comes in at an MSRP of $64,945. Invoice is $59,900 and final price after only the holiday discount alone is $58,400. Hard to call that cheap, but with 335is's and even plain 335i's stickering for over $60,000, it looks like a relative bargain.
 
I test drove a 2013 M3 this past Saturday. Six speed manual of course. I'm sure the upcoming redesigned 2014 model with a 450 hp turbocharged 6 cylinder engine will be a great car. But there is something to be said for a 414 hp, 8,300 rpm redline, naturally aspirated V8. I expect the 2014 will be viewed as BMW's version of Porsche going away from the air-cooled 911 in 1999. Or Johnny Damon going from the Red Sox to the Yankees. Lost the hair, lost the soul.
 

#15269 of 16251 Re: Not exactly a ELLPS.... [habitat1] by flightnurse

Nov 13, 2012 (3:35 pm)

Replying to: habitat1 (Nov 13, 2012 12:20 pm)
I didn't like it that BMW dropped a V8 in the M3, when it comes to tradition they could have worked with a turbo 6, which they will do now.
 
But there is something to be said for a 414 hp, 8,300 rpm redline, naturally aspirated V8. I expect the 2014 will be viewed as BMW's version of Porsche going away from the air-cooled 911 in 1999. Or Johnny Damon going from the Red Sox to the Yankees. Lost the hair, lost the soul.

#15270 of 16251 Re: Not exactly a ELLPS.... [habitat1] by sweendogy

Nov 13, 2012 (4:23 pm)

Replying to: habitat1 (Nov 13, 2012 12:20 pm)
" Or Johnny Damon going from the Red Sox to the Yankees. Lost the hair, lost the soul. " didn't Damon win a ring with the yanks in 09?
 
Maybe joe Namath to the rams.

#15271 of 16251 Re: Not exactly a ELLPS.... [sweendogy] by nyccarguy

Nov 13, 2012 (6:25 pm)

Replying to: sweendogy (Nov 13, 2012 4:23 pm)
Yes he did sween! Excellent point. He also got the 1st hit The New Stadium.

#15272 of 16251 Re: Not exactly a ELLPS.... [nyccarguy] by habitat1

Nov 13, 2012 (8:03 pm)

Replying to: nyccarguy (Nov 13, 2012 6:25 pm)
Never said Johnny Damon lost his talent. Just his soul.
 
Old Porsche enthusiasts would say the same thing about the 991 model 911 vs. the old 993 model.

#15273 of 16251 Re: Not exactly a ELLPS.... [sweendogy] by sweendogy

Nov 13, 2012 (9:37 pm)

Replying to: sweendogy (Nov 13, 2012 4:23 pm)
The porshe thing i get- but My counter would be he hit 5 more hrs a year, and had the same RBI and Obp - might of lost the "idiot" and stash - but production same or better.
 
I would of went with Namath to the rams - or Jordan to the wizards.
 
Any deals on new m3 sedan?

#15274 of 16251 Re: Not exactly a ELLPS.... [sweendogy] by habitat1

Nov 14, 2012 (4:19 am)

Replying to: sweendogy (Nov 13, 2012 9:37 pm)
There is no M3 sedan, any more. BMW killed it for 2013 MY.

#15275 of 16251 Re: Not exactly a ELLPS.... [habitat1] by graphicguy

Nov 14, 2012 (7:10 am)

Replying to: habitat1 (Nov 13, 2012 12:20 pm)
WOW....M3 for under $60K.......
 
I'm not in the market now, but will be in the next 18-24 mos when the warranty runs out on my 335i. Too bad that deal won't be available then. I'd be mighty tempted to jump on it.

#15276 of 16251 Re: Not exactly a ELLPS.... [graphicguy] by habitat1

Nov 14, 2012 (8:14 am)

Replying to: graphicguy (Nov 14, 2012 7:10 am)
The 2013 M3 deal won't be available then, but the 4-series coupe will be. And from what a friend showed me yesterday on a spy photo site, it looks like it is going to be a winner.
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