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#14844 of 16087 Re: It finally happened [nyccarguy] by flightnurse

Sep 10, 2012 (10:58 am)

Replying to: nyccarguy (Sep 10, 2012 8:39 am)
They gave him more on his trade in then I figured they would, so over all it was a great deal...

#14845 of 16087 Re: It finally happened [flightnurse] by robr2

Sep 10, 2012 (11:23 am)

Replying to: flightnurse (Sep 10, 2012 10:57 am)
Interesting, since the Genesis sedans aren't edgy in design but very much conservative.
 
I would presume wireless is referring to the Sonata. I have to agree. IIRC, I posted elsewhere that the styling would be dated rather quickly.
 
The issue with the edgy styling is that it needs refreshing more often. For instance the Sonata design language was updated for the Azera and IMHO, the Azera is a very handsome vehicle.

#14846 of 16087 Re: It finally happened [robr2] by flightnurse

Sep 10, 2012 (11:35 am)

Replying to: robr2 (Sep 10, 2012 11:23 am)
I knew what wireless was talking about however, he didn't mention that in his post.
 
I agree I was taken how nice the Azera was in person, I believe the Azera wont get old looking too quickly and easy to update...

#14847 of 16087 Re: It finally happened [billyperksii] by habitat1

Sep 10, 2012 (11:37 am)

Replying to: billyperksii (Sep 10, 2012 9:50 am)
Billy, you are way too young to be an authority on "the test of time".
 
I saw something that looked like my old 1987 Acura Integra on the road the other day and almost threw up. But our neighbor has a 1985 MB 300D that, in addition to refusing to die in spite of billowing black smoke at 400k miles, still doesn't look all that bad at only a few years younger than you.

#14849 of 16087 Re: It finally happened [robr2] by sweendogy

Sep 11, 2012 (6:01 pm)

Replying to: robr2 (Sep 10, 2012 11:23 am)
Not that my opinion means much- but I think the styling of the genesis will hold up well after the years pass. It's got styling from both Lexus and MB. It's understated yet elegant - love the looks of the exterior - the interior specifically the shifter and nav look a little dated already but from the outside this car is a nice looker- flight you should of talked your partner into getting a "r" type.
 
All in all a great value

#14850 of 16087 Genesis by sweendogy

Sep 11, 2012 (6:07 pm)

On the company website it looks like they streamlined the line a bit - 2012 had 5 options, 2013 only 2 with the 3.8 and the grand daddy 5.0 r type. Wonder if the other options will be added late- or gone forever

#14851 of 16087 Re: It finally happened [sweendogy] by flightnurse

Sep 11, 2012 (9:46 pm)

Replying to: sweendogy (Sep 11, 2012 6:01 pm)
The dealer didn't have any Spec R's and I doubt he would have gone for it if they did.
 
I drove the car to Tuscon to see a client, cruise was set at 75, i averaged 25.6 mpg, on a very green engine. EPA rates the car at 26 on the highway.

#14852 of 16087 Re: It finally happened [flightnurse] by habitat1

Sep 12, 2012 (3:13 am)

Replying to: flightnurse (Sep 11, 2012 9:46 pm)
Say it ain't so.....cruise control on a green engine????
 
Not sure what Hyundai told you, but on all of my past four new cars (Acura, Acura, Porsche and BMW) that was the one consistent thing that everybody said (and was in the owners manual): Do not use cruise control in the first 1,000 miles and if you have a long highway drive, vary the speed and engine rpms. My friend with the 535i manual is also a mechanical/nuclear engineer and gave me his interpretation as to why it is critically important that engine parts run at different speeds so as not to have single points of contact during early break in. My non-stop 510 mile trip back from Spartanburg in our new X5d was a test of discipline not to use cruise, but I varied the speeds between 60 and 80 and still averaged 29.4 mpg.
 
You may want to check the owners manual on the Genesis, but I'd be surprised if what's being recommended for everything else wouldn't also apply to it.

#14853 of 16087 Saw the newest ELLPS... by robr2

Sep 12, 2012 (5:53 am)

...Cadillac ATS at the dealer. 3.6L Performance AWD with every box ticked for options. It stickered at over $54K. A fellow sports dad is the sales manager at the dealer and he showed it to me. He hadn't driven it yet but his sales people had and it was a rocket.
 
He said they ordered this first one with everything to show folks what is offered. He expected some entry priced units shortly. I asked him to order a turbo standard with the 6 speed so I could try it but he smiled and asked for a deposit. He knows the 7 of us who want a stick will probably order one!!

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