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#14819 of 16087 Re: Headroom of Audi A4 [hclll] by habitat1

Aug 30, 2012 (2:05 pm)

Replying to: hclll (Aug 30, 2012 11:35 am)
I have a friend who is 6'4", 210+/- and he drives an 2011 A5. Loves it. I would have thought the A4 would provide similar head and leg room, but maybe not. You might want to go back and re-check for yourself.

#14820 of 16087 Re: Another happy customer [habitat1] by fedlawman

Aug 30, 2012 (6:06 pm)

Replying to: habitat1 (Aug 30, 2012 1:57 pm)
"Reaffirms my belief that there are always good deals out there if you are willing to shop around.."
 
Especially if you're not in a hurry, willing to walk away, drive 400 miles, and/or settle for options/colors that aren't your first (or even third) choice.

#14821 of 16087 Re: Headroom of Audi A4 [hclll] by ivan_99

Aug 30, 2012 (8:18 pm)

Replying to: hclll (Aug 30, 2012 11:35 am)
You really need to check it out. Some people prefer a upright position, some like to lean back.
 
I'm a similar height and I fit fine in any of the A4's from 1996 to the current one.

#14822 of 16087 Re: Another happy customer [fedlawman] by stickguy

Aug 30, 2012 (8:32 pm)

Replying to: fedlawman (Aug 30, 2012 6:06 pm)
I was fine with your first 3 conditions. My wife violently objected to the last one (options/colors!)

#14823 of 16087 Re: Another happy customer [stickguy] by fedlawman

Aug 30, 2012 (11:17 pm)

Replying to: stickguy (Aug 30, 2012 8:32 pm)
Yup, that's usually how it is...

#14824 of 16087 Re: Another happy customer [fedlawman] by habitat1

Aug 31, 2012 (3:13 am)

Replying to: fedlawman (Aug 30, 2012 11:17 pm)
Yup, that's usually how it is...
 
But....I don't think you need to (or should) go as far as to "settle" for your third (or worse) choice of color and options if you plan ahead and are willing to do the other three things.
 
Acura makes it easy. Limited "trim" choices and color choices with almost no options to begin with. Find a dealer with a big inventory that has great deals. Other brands, with long option lists, are a little tougher. But, my recent experience with BMW proved to me that custom ordering from a dealer - which I always assumed meant paying a higher price than taking a car off the lot - may in fact produce the best results, long term. We had to shop around to a dozen or more dealers to find one that still had allocation spots for a 2012 X5d, but in the end, found one willing to negotiate a price that was within a few hundred (compared to invoice) of the best deal we could have gotten for a "leftover" vehicle on the lot. But, by ordering to our exact specs, we also didn't get stuck with a few options we didn't want, which ended up putting us ahead in the end.
 
If and when I get another "fun" car, I will in all likelihood order a Porsche rather than take one of the lot. Trying to find my color and option preferences, given the ridiculous list of choices from Porsche, is a near fruitless exercise. And I'd rather shop around for a dealer willing to give me a 6-7% discount on a custom order than compromise my preferences to take a car off the lot (like I did in 2005) at a 11% discount, but one that had a lot of options that I didn't want and didn't have a couple that I now know I would like.
 
A friend of mine who used to work for Audi (corporate, not dealer) indicated that, even though Audi is achieving record sales and many dealerships are low on inventory, you can still order one at or below invoice due to incentives and their desire to continue to increase sales vs. BMW and Mercedes.
 
There is a saying in my business (real estate development) that a great deal on a fair property is not as good as a fair deal on a great property. For my friend that got lucky with a 535i manual transmission, he got the best of both worlds. But for most of us, I think I'd rather shop really hard for the car I wanted, and not be stuck with my third or fourth choice color and the wrong options for the next 6-7-8+ years.

#14825 of 16087 Re: Headroom of Audi A4 [hclll] by graphicguy

Aug 31, 2012 (5:40 am)

Replying to: hclll (Aug 29, 2012 5:37 pm)
hclll....most of the regulars here already know what I own. But, I drive an '11 335ix coupe, while the girlfriend drives an Audi S4 (majorly juiced A4). I'm 5'10" and 190 lbs. The girlfriend is 5'3" and about 125 lbs. I actually find her Audi to be more comfortable and easier to see out of than my 335i. She drives my car as much as she drives her car (and vice versa). I've never heard her complain either way....although, I'm glad both cars have memory seats.

#14826 of 16087 Re: And another thing about Acura.... [habitat1] by flightnurse

Aug 31, 2012 (6:05 am)

Replying to: habitat1 (Aug 27, 2012 1:57 pm)
The V8 in the Vette I own as well as current Vettes are what makes the car. NOt too sure what you mean by, Play games with the gear ratios? Drop it down to 3rd, and watch most car disappear in the rear view mirror. Remember, according to some, only real car enthusiasts gets manuals! I really liked my Vette, however, mine must have been a Monday car, as it wasn't screwed together very well...

#14827 of 16087 General Question by billyperksii

Aug 31, 2012 (6:45 am)

I am coverting my fog lights to HID and I wanted to know if I need"RELAY HARNESS" to do this?
I ordered the kit yesterday so I am still in the dark about these RELAYS.
Remember, this is for a 2009 TL AWD.

#14828 of 16087 Re: Another happy customer [habitat1] by stickguy

Aug 31, 2012 (7:38 am)

Replying to: habitat1 (Aug 31, 2012 3:13 am)
being able to wait should eliminate the settling issue.
 
The internet makes it real easy to shop around. In a fe minutes, I found the dealer that seems to be hoarding all the ones we want (first choice color and interior). They have 3, no one else seems to have any! But, they are about 2 hours away.
 
so my choice now is, take a ride, or just wait for a local dealer to get one.
 
of course, the far away guy is also way lower on price.

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