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BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#14708 of 16985 Re: Crash Testing [nyccarguy]
Aug 14, 2012 (4:15 pm)
I've had the S60 for 3 weeks and I'm very happy with my choice. I test drove a LaCrosse, VW CC, Tauras, Azera. I've always been impressed with the ES 350, but there are so many of them here in Western PA. I wanted something different.
Before I give my impressions of the S60 there a couple things you need to know. I was coming out of a 2005 Avalon Limited, which was a great car. This is a loaded 2013 and is my first "luxury/near luxury car." The front seat comfort for both the passenger and driver are outstanding. All of the controls are on the steering wheel or within easy reach. Handling is outstanding, power and acceleration are very good (this is my first turbo). Visibility is very good. The car has a solid feel. No rattles. The ride is a little choppy on rough roads, very good otherwise. I'm getting 30+ on the highway at about 65 mph and around 24 in mixed driving on regular.
The phone, radio, NAV, etc. are accessed through the Volvo Sensus system, which works fine once you get past the learning curve. Our cell phones, iTouch work fine. The Sensus/NAV screen is not a touch screen. It's 7 inches. I wish it was a little larger. The tach. and speedometer are not backlit. The interior has that orderly understated look, but, not surprisingly, lacks "bling". Sensus is voice activated and works very well.
I got all of the safety features, all of which seem to work as advertised. Two of the best are adaptive cruise control and active bending Xenon headlights. I find lane departure annoying, so I've shut it off. I don't let any of these "safety nannies" drive the car for me, but if they can give me a heads up, I'll take it.
On the downside are a tight back seat and no spare. There is an inflation kit in the trunk. This was almost a deal breaker for me. The dealer threw in a donut spare, which comes in a fabric zip bag and is strapped down in the trunk, a + $200 option. This makes a smallish trunk even smaller.
Volvo offers the Safe and Secure plan, which covers maintenance and repairs (even brakes) for 5 yrs. or 50,000 miles. (Tires are not covered under this plan.)
The car is very fun to drive and I'm happy with it. Hope this helps.
#14709 of 16985 Re: Crash Testing [jeffm5]
Aug 14, 2012 (4:43 pm)
Jeffm - thanks for the review - I found it interesting the cars you cross shopped this against - Taurus and azera - cars that when you think about them seem to be in a different category but when you dive deep they are very similar - why not another Avalon , seems like Toyota improved a bit on the old one and it's a very near cousin to the es.
The spare tire thing for Me would of been an issue as well- the Volvo have run flats?
Good luck with the new rig- refreshing to see a newer car talked about here.
#14711 of 16985 Re: These Crash Tests [m6user]
Aug 14, 2012 (4:52 pm)
My exaggeration was an attempt at humor that obviously didn't translate well given the medium. I know the car was by no means considered a death trap.
#14712 of 16985 Re: Crash Testing [jeffm5]
Aug 14, 2012 (4:56 pm)
Fantastic write up Jeff. Glad you are happy with your S60;)
#14713 of 16985 Re: Crash Testing [nyccarguy]
Aug 14, 2012 (5:16 pm)
I parked next to a black S60 with the saddle interior yesterday. Very sharp.
#14714 of 16985 Re: Auto Start/Stop [rayainsw]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Aug 14, 2012 (6:46 pm)
#14715 of 16985 Re: Auto Start/Stop [kyfdx]
Aug 14, 2012 (8:56 pm)
Auto start-stop was a little weird to me when I first got the Malibu Hybrid. Now I rarely notice it.
It may seem like an annoyance, but in real-life, it's a non-issue.
#14716 of 16985 Re: Crash Testing [sweendogy]
Aug 15, 2012 (4:23 am)
We would have loved another Avalon and were looking forward to the 2013. Problem is the the front grill design, which we think is ugly. (No offense to those who find it sharp. These things are very subjective.)
BTW, the LaCrosse is an impressive car, but those wide A pillars were a deal breaker.
#14717 of 16985 Re: These Crash Tests [m6user]
Aug 15, 2012 (6:26 am)
The tests are what they are and they don't change substantially from year to year.
Actually this this is a modification to an existing test. Years ago the IIHS decided that the head on test done by the government wasn't real world enough so they came out and tested offset crashes. The performance of most cars was poor so it forced automakers to design to get a good rating on this test.
Now the IIHS has moved the target and changed the offset test from moderate overlap to small overlap. The moving target is the way the insurance industry gets the automakers to keep making vehicles safer in order to reduce the payouts they have to make.