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BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
Jun 23, 2012 (9:49 am)
GM build a great rock crusher tranny the M-22 nice one, who needs a clutch.
#14350 of 16251 Re: folks [stickguy]
Jun 23, 2012 (10:18 am)
fed...stick...fn...I actually learned how to drive a manual on an Econoline Van my Father used in his business. Can't remember the year it was though. It was a "3 on the tree". Then I graduated to an F-150, with the long throw (and I do me looonnnnnng throw) floor shifter, in which you had to guess which gear it might end up. It might have had synchros at some point in its life. But they were gone by the time I jumped into the driver's seat. Lots of double clutching on that truck.
Lots of control offered with those....
Jun 23, 2012 (10:52 am)
Drove several, back in the day.
Even drove a '4 on the tree' once - a Peugeot -
a mid-1960s 404, I believe.
Happy now with 7 on the floor - and on the steering wheel...
#14352 of 16251 Re: "Driver Skills" [graphicguy]
Jun 23, 2012 (11:35 am)
This little dust-up reminds me of a debate that descended into a verbal assault over on Edmunds "Inside Line". As often happens someone gets critical--even nonsensical over some perceived problem with a technology or car, in this case the new Scion/Subie joint venture.
Anyway, this anti-Scion poster argued vehemently (one could almost imagine the spittle on his computer screen) that no car could be called a sports car with only 200 HP as if that as the only measure of a sports car could be distilled into one number divorced from all other driving characteristics. No amount of argument from others would sway him from his position. I liked it when another poster pointed out that by that narrow definition no Austin Healey, MG, Triumph, Fiat, etc--all mid-60s icons of sportiness-- could be classified as a sports car.
Alas, neither would my 92 MR2 with only 140 HP, but it always feels like a sports car to me (and GG I whisper this: it has a manual)
#14353 of 16251 Re: "Driver Skills" [gogiboy]
Jun 23, 2012 (12:54 pm)
200hp? Where do these guys crawl out from?
Here are some of the non-sports cars I've owned over the years...
79 Alfa Romeo Spider, 86 Honda (Jackson Racing) CR-X Si, 88 BMW 325is, 91 Nissan Sentra SE-R, 94 Mazda Miata.
Now that I think about it, out of the 20 or so cars I have owned over the years, only 2 have had more than 200hp.
#14354 of 16251 Re: "Driver Skills" [fedlawman]
Jun 23, 2012 (4:00 pm)
interesting question about HP. Thinking back, I am pretty sure the only ones I have had are my 2000 Acura TL (really my son's car) and my wife's Odyssey.
Maybe the 1970 Nova I briefly had (never registered that dog). I know it had a V8, but no clue how much HP it had than (or ever!).
So of cars that I actually plated and drove, probably just those 2. Had a 1998 Maxima SE, but that only had 190 I think. But was quick.
#14355 of 16251 Re: "Driver Skills" [stickguy]
Jun 23, 2012 (4:29 pm)
Only 190hp, but the Maxima had a 4DSC sticker on the window, so it counts.
Jun 23, 2012 (4:44 pm)
daring to venture back onto topic...
stopped at the Audi dealer today to look at a Q5 (not a back little wagon). Only had 1 of those in stock, but man, they had A4s stacked up everywhere.
#14357 of 16251 Re: "Driver Skills" [gogiboy]
Jun 24, 2012 (7:49 am)
Hey Gogi....haven't seen you around in awhile. Where have you been?
Don't be a stranger.
I should know better than to be drawn into those types of pretentious/contentious posts.
My son really likes the Subie version of that BRZ. I told him he probably has another 4-5 years on his newly acquired Fiesta (which he really likes, with its version of a dual clutch trans automatic) before he should look at one. Who knows what will be available by then. His circumstances will dictate.
For good or ill, he's inherited his Dad's love of cars.....even automatics.
I think those Maximas only came as automatics....the 4 door sports car (4DSC).
#14358 of 16251 Re: "Driver Skills" [graphicguy]
Jun 24, 2012 (12:45 pm)
No the Maximas in the mid/late 90s were available with 5 spd manual trannies. Don't know about the the later ones. I had a 96.