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BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#14319 of 16251 Re: Well my friends [nyccarguy]
Jun 21, 2012 (11:16 am)
congrats fellas you did it.
#14320 of 16251 Re: 328 Re: Graphicguy [flightnurse]
Jun 21, 2012 (1:02 pm)
FN...I 2nd NYC's desire to hear the gory details on the RS4. Of course, pics are required, too.
NYC....I saw some review a couple of evenings ago on youtube touting BMW's new and improved DSG. The reviewer said it was a huge step up for them. Wish I could remember who did the review. It was a professional review, however.
It's clear where all the money is going for transmission development...auto-manuals, dual clutch, more gears (Audi's manual is a 6 speed, S-Tronic is a 7 speed). As we've experienced, these transmissions are quite good. They're even becoming more fuel efficient than manuals, too.
With steering wheel paddle shifting, I can't even see a reason to have a manual on a track car.
#14321 of 16251 Re: 328 Re: Graphicguy [graphicguy]
Jun 21, 2012 (1:41 pm)
"With steering wheel paddle shifting, I can't even see a reason to have a manual on a track car."
what ever happened to testing a drivers skill, concentration and endurance?
next is a car that drives itself around the track- guy with the most expensive car wins.. great plan..
#14322 of 16251 Re: Well my friends [nyccarguy]
Jun 22, 2012 (5:41 am)
nyc.....seems as if BMW finally got their DCT trans to the point where it's really, really good. I've never driven this, but found a blurb video that addresses BMW's DCT briefly. I drove the old version, which as the reviewer points out, was bad.
http://reviews.cnet.com/coupe-hatchback/2011-bmw-m3-coupe/4505-10867_7-34837307.- - html
Sounds very similar to the S-Tronic in our S4.
Can't remember if it was you, but someone wanted to see the console and nav in the S4.
#14323 of 16251 Re: Well my friends [graphicguy]
Jun 22, 2012 (6:27 am)
I didn't ask, but damn that is beautiful! So who has been driving the S4 more, you or your GF?
#14324 of 16251 Re: 328 Re: Graphicguy [sweendogy]
Jun 22, 2012 (6:39 am)
Sweeny what does that have to do with manual car?
First off, driver skills, what skills? 99% of drivers in America have no skills at al! When was the last time you double clutched your G? How often have you 4 wheel drifted your G, coming out of a corner?
Whether you are driving LI Expressway, the 405 in LA or I35 in Austin the amount of traffic on the roads today do not allow one to use "drivers skills" these days, and since you have stated in the past you have never taken your G35 on the track, then having done any "driver skills" is out of the question.
Also what does driving a manual have to with endurance?
#14325 of 16251 BMW DCT Re: Well my friends [graphicguy]
Jun 22, 2012 (6:36 am)
'if BMW finally got their DCT trans to the point where it's really, really good.'
Approaching 10,000 miles on a BMW 3 w/DCT,
my opinion is that it is very, very good.
Just read the R&T test of BMW's M5 w/DCT online this morning...
[ Edit: And w/Manual 6-speed. ]
#14326 of 16251 Re: 328 Re: Graphicguy [flightnurse]
Jun 22, 2012 (6:46 am)
FN...just because someone knows how to drive a manual trans (who doesn't in this thread?), doesn't equate to being a good driver, let alone a good track participant. One type of trans doesn't make you a skilled driver over another type of trans.
A good driver is a good driver, a bad driver is a bad driver, regardless of the transmission that's in their car, or if they're on a track.
Lo those many years ago when I was still tracking my ratty Mustang, it was always a hoot to watch the folks who fashioned themselves as "track guys". My car looked like garbage. But, it was always fun to dispatch them. I kind of salivate thinking what I could have done on the track with one of these current day dual clutch auto/manual trans.
RAY.....would love to test drive a BMW with their recent DCT. I bet it's a blast.
NYC....as always....appreciate the comments. Last week, I commandeered the S4. Since then, she's been in it, making sure she takes it before I can grab the keys.
Frankly, it depends on which car has the most gas as to which one she takes.......
#14327 of 16251 BMW DCT Re: 328 Re: Graphicguy [graphicguy]
Jun 22, 2012 (7:08 am)
'RAY.....would love to test drive a BMW with their recent DCT. I bet it's a blast. '
Next time you are in HotLanta, let me know
and you can drive this one...
Blast is a good description...
#14328 of 16251 Re: 328 Re: Graphicguy [flightnurse]
Jun 22, 2012 (8:25 am)
I'm amazed at a guy who calls people out for not reading the posts-has the stones to respond as such- "track" was the main point. I have done various driving schools- never competed in any track events- and at those schools they do not teach students on automatics- one reason is to fully be more in tune with the car. Driving a manual on a track takes skill- it takes energy and thus endurance- pretty simple observations.
I'm amazed at your comments at times - not everyone has been to Germany to pick up one of 3bmws and had owned a corvette - Im also not really up on leader ads - but one thing I do know is of you drive a manual the right hand has more to do then just turn the radio and text -so I'm all for it.
I will never Track my g- unless I hit the lotto I don't see a reason to track a 45k car with the potential for it to be distroyed.