Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

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What is this discussion about? BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan

#14236 of 16087 Re: DCT [kyfdx] by kdshapiro

Jun 08, 2012 (10:13 pm)

Replying to: kyfdx (Jun 08, 2012 1:18 pm)
Love the g. The size is perfect. And yes, it is fast and rides like it is on rails. I'm unimpressed with the a4 and TL.
 
Plus there are rumors of a 530 hp ipl. The next few years will be interesting.

#14237 of 16087 Re: DCT [kdshapiro] by sweendogy

Jun 09, 2012 (6:45 am)

Replying to: kdshapiro (Jun 08, 2012 10:13 pm)
Nice - and I remain impressed with my old g35x with 31k miles drives nice for a 5 year old with bald tires- i dont let my wife drive it, my maintence costs over the 5 years were about the same as a civic+ the 10 plus I paid less then a 335xi - performance + power at a cheaper price I think this car has been a home run.
 
I like the Audi a4/s4 look- would love an s4, stick, quatro - they are a little front heavy and not cheap but it's a nice rig. The TL in current form and long name Should go away. Someone mentioned folding Acura into honda - makes since but I don't see it happening - and they just spent 1.5m on a Super Bowl commercial.

#14238 of 16087 Re: DCT [kdshapiro] by flightnurse

Jun 09, 2012 (9:22 am)

Replying to: kdshapiro (Jun 08, 2012 10:13 pm)
The G37 makes more HP then a BMW 335, but the BMW is quicker 0-60 and in the quarter miles. It appears that BMW laps Willow Springs "Street" track as well as "race" track quicker then a G37. So I guess this does make it a better deal...

#14239 of 16087 Re: DCT [kyfdx] by flightnurse

Jun 09, 2012 (9:28 am)

Replying to: kyfdx (Jun 08, 2012 1:18 pm)
I'm not too sure about the CTS being one size up on the 3 series, that CTS is very tight in the back seat as well as drivers seat....I rented one for a week and was no impressed with it at all..

#14240 of 16087 Re: DCT [flightnurse] by kdshapiro

Jun 09, 2012 (10:51 am)

Replying to: flightnurse (Jun 09, 2012 9:22 am)
I agree, and if you followed my posts over time you know my first love is BMW. However the g37 is a sweet package. According to goodcarbadcar.net, it's the second best japanese luxury seller after the rx.
 
Also rented a CTS and agree with your comments.

#14241 of 16087 Re: DCT [kdshapiro] by sweendogy

Jun 09, 2012 (12:20 pm)

Replying to: kdshapiro (Jun 09, 2012 10:51 am)
BMW is the best for sure, but throwing dollars in the debate it's a lot closer.

#14242 of 16087 ILX- Ridiculous by dino001

Jun 10, 2012 (1:47 pm)

I just checked Acura's website. So ILX w/6-speed manual (FWD) is 30 grand. This is demented - souped up Civic at price of fully loaded Accord (including Nav). Makes no sense whatsoever to me. TSX is basically superior car in every dimension, but I suspect it costs them too much. Too low sales to support bringing all-different chassis vs. having something run on volume seller. The only one that could make some sense is hybrid - at 34 grand it is positioned to compete with Lexus CT (which goes higher when you load it up). Definietely not ELLPS, but may find its niche.
Who is running their marketing? I want a name.

#14243 of 16087 ILX yes rediculous by wireless

Jun 10, 2012 (1:31 pm)

Marketing? How about their design department? Can't figure out who would actually purchase that ugly thing.

#14244 of 16087 Re: ILX yes rediculous [wireless] by ivan_99

Jun 11, 2012 (12:48 pm)

Replying to: wireless (Jun 10, 2012 1:31 pm)
No joke...back in the day...my "best man" and I were having a conversation about cars. He's not a car guy at-all. Last time we talked he was "sharing" a car in the city he was living (pay per use type thing).
 
Anyway...he mentioned how great the Pontiac Aztek was. How it was one of the vehicles he could own; it had and did everything.
 
They'll probably still sell a few ILXs

#14245 of 16087 Re: ILX- Ridiculous [dino001] by flightnurse

Jun 11, 2012 (1:13 pm)

Replying to: dino001 (Jun 10, 2012 1:47 pm)
ILX is suppose to bring the kids who grew with the luxury cars their parents owned. This is according to Car and Driver, however, if these kids are use to BMW, Audi and MB, why would they get a Japaneses car and not stick with a brand they are use to. As I stated before, why would anyone pay 33K for a ILX when they can get a CPO BMW 328i for the same price.. I think this is going to be a very hard sell for Acura...
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