Last post on Dec 06, 2013 at 7:58 AM
You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#13250 of 16984 Re: Opinions on Infiniti [sweendogy]
Mar 01, 2012 (8:08 pm)
Fact: The G is in its sixth model year 2007-2012
- your playing with semantics, all that changed between 2008 and 2009 was the 3.7 liter V6 and 7spd transmission.
Fact: The G was down 9% for Jan 2012 in sales and just now broke even with YTD in 2011.
Fact: The introduction of the G25 did not increase the G's overall sales number in the quantity Infiniti originally hoped for.
Fact: The Altima is being redesigned for 2013
With this FACTUAL information, there is a need to introduce a redesign G that is more refined, has much better mpg, etc than the current 2nd Gen G series. Like someone else mentioned, Infiniti has milked its current iteration. They need something fresh to keep nipping on the heels of the 3-Series!
Hey, I'm not Infiniti hater, I had an Infiniti at one point, but they need to get their act together to stay competitive. I think this co-op with Mercedes will bring the refinement to the Infiniti line-up that everyone has wanted and complained about for years. I hope they apply this as well and bring a redesigned FX and EX b/c those two crossovers are not helping their sales numbers either.
#13251 of 16984 Re: Opinions on Infiniti [graphicguy]
Mar 01, 2012 (8:10 pm)
I'm not sure how the G is on the lower end of that range considering it is constantly compared against the 3-Series. If anything the 3-Series and G are at the top of the range, with the A4/C-Class in the middle and ES/TL on the lower end of the range.
#13252 of 16984 Re: Opinions on Infiniti [smarty666]
Mar 01, 2012 (8:56 pm)
Have you seen pictures (concepts) of the new G? It is fugly!
To my eyes, it looks like a Bizzarro World version of the Genesis Coupe.
When did the Japanese start copying the Koreans?
#13253 of 16984 Re: Opinions on Infiniti [smarty666]
Mar 01, 2012 (10:51 pm)
The TL isn't in this class at all, though, as it's a large luxury sedan that's similar to a Cadillac or Lexus. It's also front wheel drive, which further complicates the problem.
To be entry level and performance, it has to have three things.
- Rear wheel drive. If it is AWD, it absolutely has to be rear-wheel biased. (performance part #1)
- Be midsize or compact (performance part #2)
- Not just a tin can with a bunch of leather added.
#13254 of 16984 Re: Opinions on Infiniti [smarty666]
Mar 02, 2012 (1:53 am)
Fact is you have yet to post any actual information from any source about the redo. You quote sales numbers. The sales figure you quoted, fact says they sold the same Amt of cars ytd as they did in 2011- so they are flat by your estimates. You stated the obvious that they are in the 7th year with the current car, and while I agree they need a refresh I have not seen any word on this coming, but you stated Fact that they are a go for 2013, maybe a spy shot or 2 of Infinitis main seller. I would like to see the press release or a car mag that inFact states this is true- not some comment about the Altima, a car that's for sure the same body style bit 90% of its sales are 4cyl, is fwd, and uses a cvt- 3 major differences when doing a redu. Its great to have an opionion but it's not Fact no matter how many times you write it.
#13255 of 16984 Re: Opinions on Infiniti [sweendogy]
Mar 02, 2012 (5:46 am)
Everything I stated was fact. Perhaps if you spent less time arguing with people on here about how great Infiniti is, and actually do some research online, you wouldn't have to be so argumentative.
BTW - I never said Infiniti confirmed a redesign for 2013, as myself and others have pointed, we said they are in NEED of a redesign as the car is in its sixth model year. Big difference. Nor did I say the car is in its seventh model year. If you do some simple math 2012-2007, that is 6 yrs not 7 yrs.
Everything I stated is fact, as is the Altima sharing the same platform as the G Sedan so if the Altima is getting redesign, it makes logical sense that the G would be as well as that is a common occurrence when platforms are shared.
#13256 of 16984 Re: Opinions on Infiniti [smarty666]
Mar 02, 2012 (6:35 am)
so if the Altima is getting redesign, it makes logical sense that the G would be as well as that is a common occurrence when platforms are shared.
Not if moving forward with the same platform. The sheetmetal bolted to it isn't shared between the vehicles, so it doesn't matter if one gets redesigned UNLESS it is moving to a new platform.
HOWEVER, in this case, you are incorrect anyway, as the G is on the FM platform (RWD/AWD), while the Altima is on the D platform.
Speaking of which, the FM platform is already 11 years old. I wish Nissan would either replace it altogether or keep using it just for SUVs. The damned thing results in porky cars. They need something lighter yet more rigid for the Z/G, IMHO.
#13257 of 16984 Re: Opinions on Infiniti [plekto]
Mar 02, 2012 (7:16 am)
What's the purpose of this post?
Is it based on ranting or just pure ignorance?
#13258 of 16984 platform[s] Re: Opinions on Infiniti [qbrozen]
Mar 02, 2012 (6:52 am)
Thanks for posting that.
I was going to look up the relationship
between those 2 - but had not, yet.
Did not seem logical, to me...
[ like the Infiniti Coupe and the Nissan 370Z - both RWD - does ]
Currently a RWD coupe driver ......
#13259 of 16984 Re: Opinions on Infiniti [smarty666]
Mar 02, 2012 (7:41 am)
Backtract once again- smarty you are so back to your TL driving ways....
(remember when you argued for the tL, then 6mrhs later you traded it in for the 3)- Fact is you state the obvious and add no real value. Mb and Infiniti getting together, 2011 production issues, global economic issues= no redo for 2013.