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#13239 of 16251 Re: Dealer pricing [fedlawman] by flightnurse

Feb 28, 2012 (8:38 am)

Replying to: fedlawman (Feb 27, 2012 2:31 pm)
Fedman it appears that BMW and Porsche's had thier value much better then others. However, if you look at the base price for a new 911, you are talking 80K base...
 
The CPO 335i for 40K seems about right, a fully loaded 335i is almost 60K.
 
You should be able to find a CPO 2009 off lease with less then 40K, which would increase the warranty to 100K for mid to low 20's.

#13240 of 16251 Re: Opinions on Infiniti [smarty666] by flightnurse

Feb 28, 2012 (8:53 am)

Replying to: smarty666 (Feb 27, 2012 7:17 pm)
Currently Infiniti has the G25 for the entry into the G sedan, which also gets better MPG then the thirsty G37. Right now I don't think a turbo 4 is in the works for Infiniti, however they need to raise their CAFE for get fined. Now since Nissan has some great diesels in Europe and Japan, not too sure why they don't bring these engines over to the US.
 
Regarding design, Infiniti has been on a evolution of their cars, so maybe a refresh would help sales.

#13241 of 16251 Re: acura vs. tl [flightnurse] by sweendogy

Feb 28, 2012 (10:04 am)

Replying to: flightnurse (Feb 27, 2012 3:29 pm)
Yeah Audi needs to bump hp (which I Have mentioned before) but the engine does have a good enuf torque- unlike the tsx ( still in Elpps?) has what 180lbs. I like when you say the base price for a top a4 car- what, what, what...Moving on I agree Audi as also expensive when compared to base level japaniese comps for sure. The tl g give you more for sure- to bad they don't throw in free wipers and oil changes like the great BMW maintaince plan. (iPhone sorry for the mistypes)
 
Flight nurse - why did you need my age again ?

#13242 of 16251 Re: Opinions on Infiniti [flightnurse] by dbledmndk2

Feb 28, 2012 (11:12 am)

Replying to: flightnurse (Feb 28, 2012 8:53 am)
I think we're going to see a bigger difference between the G25 and the G37. Currently the MPG and price differences are too small in my opinion so I wouldn't be surprised to see the G25 end up with a turbo engine and the G37 to continue on its merry way with a new more sporty exterior and LED daytime running lights. I think there are some pictures floating around out there from a recent auto show hinting at the new G coupe - looks a lot sportier like the Nissan Z.

#13243 of 16251 Re: Dealer pricing [flightnurse] by fedlawman

Feb 28, 2012 (3:57 pm)

Replying to: flightnurse (Feb 28, 2012 8:38 am)
"You should be able to find a CPO 2009 off lease with less then 40K, which would increase the warranty to 100K for mid to low 20's."
 
Based on the stickers I saw, I am very sure I cannot get a CPO 2009 335i for less than $30K.
 
Fortunately, I'm not interested in a 335i. After driving it, I didn't like the response of the throttle. It's not turbo lag, per se, but there is definitely a disconnected feeling that I don't like.
 
The only BMW I would consider right now is an E90 M3. I've given myself an upper limit of $60K (but I'd prefer to stay below $50K). I'm in no hurry so I can wait for the right car and deal.

#13244 of 16251 Re: Opinions on Infiniti [flightnurse] by smarty666

Feb 28, 2012 (5:52 pm)

Replying to: flightnurse (Feb 28, 2012 8:53 am)
I was first really interested in the G25 when it came out, but when I saw the mpg rating (which is the same as a RWD G37) for its size engine, it completely turned me off. I hope Infiniti rectifies it.
 
I agree with the Nissan diesels in other countries, why they don't bring them over. I highly doubt they will, especially with the M hybrid, it seems that, at least Infiniti, is going to do a hybrid as their fuel efficient choice of technology.
 
I agree, Infiniti is much like BMW in doing an evolution of their vehicles rather than a revolution, so I expect only a moderate refresh will be done on the G lineup. If they go in the direction of the essence concept, then they should be in good shape design wise.

#13245 of 16251 Re: Opinions on Infiniti [smarty666] by sweendogy

Feb 29, 2012 (6:08 pm)

Replying to: smarty666 (Feb 28, 2012 5:52 pm)
From what I read Nissan and mb are getting together on a 6. Being a Nissan fan I don't know what to expect because from what I'm hearing mb is doing most of the work- should be interesting - I dont think it's going to be ready by 2013 so I don't know of any real update for the G is really in store - atleast what I have read - please share any links detailing the new G

#13246 of 16251 Re: Opinions on Infiniti [sweendogy] by smarty666

Feb 29, 2012 (8:54 pm)

Replying to: sweendogy (Feb 29, 2012 6:08 pm)
The G is in its 6th model year, 2007-2012, its due for a redesign. Sales have sagged on the G, and with the new 3 Series, I can't see any logical reason to prolong the redesign into a 7th model year. I don't know of any luxury make bread/butter model, that has gone that long without a moderate-major redesign.

#13247 of 16251 Re: Opinions on Infiniti [smarty666] by ivan_99

Mar 01, 2012 (1:47 am)

Replying to: smarty666 (Feb 29, 2012 8:54 pm)
The Lexus IS350 is from 2006 and is basically the same for 2012...same engine/transmission.
 
The 2007 G was a G35...it was G37 in 2009.
 
The IS is probably not Lexus' "bread/butter"...but whatever food group it belongs to, it's starting to smell a bit after so many years.
 
I have an IS and if I were shopping today it probably wouldn't be close to the top of my list.

#13248 of 16251 Re: Opinions on Infiniti [smarty666] by sweendogy

Mar 01, 2012 (6:50 am)

Replying to: smarty666 (Feb 29, 2012 8:54 pm)
The sales comment and redesign is tht your opinion or fact? If fact from where? Like I said mb and Nissan getting together on a 6 that will be the standard engine for a boatload of cars - I have no read anything on the redesign, which is funny because it's match and Infiniti usually releases new models in oct-

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