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#12788 of 16087 Re: My test drive experience [sweendogy] by markcincinnati

Dec 30, 2011 (9:17 am)

Replying to: sweendogy (Dec 29, 2011 5:33 pm)
I have to assume that AWD is in the Genesis pipeline. I suspect they need another year or two to refine their "house made" 8-spd transmission. From what I read it is a notch lower in refinement to the ones used by Audi and BMW.
 
BTW, is it true that Infiniti sources its 7-spd from Mercedes? And, is it true that the first year the 7-spd had some software problems but that they have since been corrected?
 
Our late 2010 build 2011 FX35 AWD has the 7-spd and it has presented zero problems and zero recalls in 18,000+ miles. The only thing I do notice about the FX35's "character" is that the engine makes coarser sounds than the Acura 3.7L engine, but this trait is really only evident at very high RPM's and/or when the accelerator is floored.
 
It should be improved by Infiniti, no doubt, as the Infiniti engine refinement is not quite up to Audi, BMW or even, Honda, er Acura smoooothness.

#12789 of 16087 Re: My test drive experience [markcincinnati] by kdshapiro

Dec 30, 2011 (9:45 am)

Replying to: markcincinnati (Dec 30, 2011 9:17 am)
To me it doesn't matter how the engine sounds at wot. The G37 will almost beat the 335 and is a rocket. For $45K if one stays away from the coupe models, you can get a fully loaded vehicle for a family of two is big enough for most occasions. (The occasions it's not big enough, neither is the Audi or Acura either)
 
A 335 will cost $50K+ for the same equipment level. Having said that I don't think I would necessarily buy a fully loaded 335, but there are those who compare feature to feature.

#12790 of 16087 Re: My test drive experience [kdshapiro] by ivan_99

Dec 30, 2011 (11:36 am)

Replying to: kdshapiro (Dec 30, 2011 9:45 am)
To me it doesn't matter how the engine sounds at wot
 
Why not?

#12791 of 16087 Re: My test drive experience [ivan_99] by sweendogy

Dec 30, 2011 (11:53 am)

Replying to: ivan_99 (Dec 30, 2011 11:36 am)
The problem I have with this conversation is the fact that under no duress the engine is as quiet as any on the board. When bullying to 60 it's not going to sound like a a4 or a tsx or even a lexas es350. It's got a boatload more power then anyof these comps. I think this agrument is a joke - more grunt less cost buy some earplugs or move to the right lane -

#12792 of 16087 Re: My test drive experience [sweendogy] by tlong

Dec 30, 2011 (12:19 pm)

Replying to: sweendogy (Dec 30, 2011 11:53 am)
I think this agrument is a joke - more grunt less cost buy some earplugs or move to the right lane -
 
There ARE plenty of powerful engines that aren't harsh when under high acceleration. But the Infiniti "G" is not one of them.

#12793 of 16087 Re: My test drive experience [sweendogy] by carnaught

Dec 30, 2011 (12:48 pm)

Replying to: sweendogy (Dec 30, 2011 11:53 am)
Regarding the Infiniti's "exhaust note": I think this agrument is a joke - more grunt less cost buy some earplugs or move to the right lane
 
I for one, totally submitted to, and agreed with your statement but found that on a daily basis, it was too intrusive and I didn't enjoy the car and did not want to live with it. So, there are some of us who feel differently following the progression of the ownership experience. This doesn't mean that Infiniti doesn't give one a great car for the money.

#12794 of 16087 Re: My test drive experience [carnaught] by sweendogy

Dec 30, 2011 (1:01 pm)

Replying to: carnaught (Dec 30, 2011 12:48 pm)
I think it's tough to get a feel of the cars sound during a test drive- I for one try to put the potential car thru a few tests around performance - don't know if you were doing this but I can tell you at highway speeds the car is quiet. Is it S class quiet, not even close. For me it's not intrusive at all- and I actaully like the sound it makes - sure it's more mustang then merc but you actually feel like you've got something special when you hammer the gas.

#12795 of 16087 Re: My test drive experience [tlong] by sweendogy

Dec 30, 2011 (1:56 pm)

Replying to: tlong (Dec 30, 2011 12:19 pm)
Please name a more powerful engine in car that is listed for under 37 k has 4doors and is quieter? Move to the right, fast lane reserved..

#12796 of 16087 Re: My test drive experience [kdshapiro] by rayainsw

Dec 30, 2011 (2:28 pm)

Replying to: kdshapiro (Dec 30, 2011 9:45 am)
'To me it doesn't matter how the engine sounds at wot.'
I respect the viewpoint.
To me, it matters - a lot.
Part of the pleasure I derive from acceleration
includes the sound and the smoothness of
the internal combustion engine - conveying an impression
that it is "happy in it's work".
I do not want to hear \ feel an engine like the current Infiniti V6.
- Ray
Spends a lot of time at WOT...

#12797 of 16087 Re: My test drive experience [rayainsw] by carnaught

Dec 30, 2011 (3:14 pm)

Replying to: rayainsw (Dec 30, 2011 2:28 pm)
Part of the pleasure I derive from acceleration
includes the sound and the smoothness of
the internal combustion engine - conveying an impression
that it is "happy in it's work".
I do not want to hear \ feel an engine like the current Infiniti V6.
- Ray
 
Well said; I totally agree.

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